View Full Version : Does anybody want to make a MILLION DOLLARS??

Neil Gubitz
02-23-2002, 08:44 PM
I've been knocking this around my brain for a long time now... I really don't know where to begin or whom to contact that won't just steal my idea and take it as their own! So, I've decided to DONATE this idea to my Herp Brotheren....here it is:

Right now, it IS possible to "microchip" an animal so that if it's ever stolen or lost, all you have to do is scan it and the ID number pops up and you know it's your animal....well...how about "LOJAKING" AN ANIMAL with a microchip!! I mean, take a microchip and insert a small battery that could send out a signal that could be inserted right under the skin....when the animal is stolen or lost, turn the machine on and track the beep right to the animal??? With the technology of today...I can't believe it hasn't been thought of before this! Here's your chance to be a HERO in the Herp World! Let me know what you guys think about this....and ESPECIALLY if someone wants to work on it, either with me, or by yourself....Neil

02-23-2002, 09:48 PM
Neil sounds good, but what if it broke and u had a 10 foot beeping python? i dunno, kinda like a phone "page" button? Maybe if it said something funny like "im slythering this way!" or "mommy/daddy im lost!" <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> talking herps? beeping herps? good idea.....i dunno how they would make sounds through the skin though <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

John Apple
02-23-2002, 10:29 PM
Retinal scan anyone &nbsp; &nbsp; lol <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

02-24-2002, 02:36 AM
It's been a long time since I looked into them, but I believe the microchips have a very limited range. &nbsp;The scanners I remember had to be within three feet of the chip in order to recognize it. &nbsp;Even with advances in technology, I would doubt anything beyond 20 feet would be detectable.

Of course, for all I know, we all have chips inside of us with satellites keeping tabs on us and the government knows EXACTLY who and where we are at all times! &nbsp; <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

Big Brother is watching...........

02-24-2002, 07:09 PM
Hi Neil
Hello from the north...AND CANADA RULES!!!
just to let you know, that microchipping does exist in animals.
It has been done on show cats and dogs for a few years now, and I have seen it done a few times on snakes. &nbsp;This is simply done by a small guage needle, and the chip is encoded with a personal id number, and that animal is the only animal to ever receive that number. &nbsp;Upon resale, that number is transfered with that said animal. &nbsp;When that animal is deceased, only then, is that number ever available for use again. &nbsp;These small chips are read by a gun, much like a thermometer gun. &nbsp;Simply point and the number is read.
If you want some more infoo, I am sure I could muster that up for you, and there are vets that have this information as well. &nbsp;There are directories that store these ID number much like the Canadian and American Kennel Clubs., for dogs.
Take care, and wipe the tears, four years from now, US can try again......hee hee
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02-24-2002, 07:52 PM
Why not teach them to repeat their adress and phone number?

Seriously, for a tracker type like your idea, it would be a large foriegn object that would most likely have problems with rejection and infections from the rejection due to the size required to make it have any useable range at all.
An added bonus is the battery, yes, even lithium, would have to be replaced often and that would further complications incurred in the process.

Any one thought of fingerprinting their snake, with a good quality close up , panoramic picture of their reptiles? Every individual doesn,t match exactly in coloration and appearance.
With regular updates, even the change in appearance over time due to sheds, gravidity etc.would be reasonable enough to be allowed in court cases.
And a picture would eliminate any stress involved with injections, surgeries and complications of a foreign body insertion, even one so small as the currently available

Neil Gubitz
02-24-2002, 07:57 PM
Beth....I KNOW that!! I'm saying that if someone came up with a way to put a micro-battery INTO that chip (just like LOJAK)....then when the animal is stolen, you could turn on the machine and the micro-chip with the micro-battery would SEND OUT A SIGNAL (it WON'T beep on it's own!!<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> which could be tracked! Like they do with whales and sharks, and condors, etc...but only with an INTERNAL chip instead of the "darts or harnesses" they use now??? It seems like it would be so easy with all the new technology we have today??? Now do you understand what I'm talking about??? ....Neil

Ciro Spina
02-25-2002, 01:35 AM
In theory it sounds good, if it is even possible, but think of it this way. &nbsp;Your only going to do it to valuable animals. &nbsp;Someone who goes after valuable animals is probably gonna know that there is the possiblity of the animal being "lowjacked". &nbsp;So, what's he gonna do? He is gonna cut the animal open to get the chip out. &nbsp;Most likely the animal is going to die. &nbsp;So in the end, not only did you get robbed, but there is a dead animal. &nbsp;

Ciro Spina

02-25-2002, 03:33 AM
hee hee......too many of the frothy apple juices!! &nbsp;Canada wins and all heck breaks loose here...sorry Neil....misunderstood you totally.....but how abouts tomorrow when this headache that hasn't yet started goes away., I will invent your microchip with battery, flashing lights, sirens, and table dancer to boot!!! &nbsp;gonna regret this in the morning but hey, ...... &nbsp;GO CANADA GO!!! &nbsp;took us fifty years to do this..might take another 50.....so better get the partying done now cause in 50 years, ####, this might not be a good idea...cheers!!! &nbsp;hey Neil.love the geckos.they smile at me <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

02-25-2002, 09:33 AM
Snake alarms- 4 actual thefts prevented

Millions woken nightly, by their sounds.

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02-25-2002, 12:58 PM
You know webslave. I thought of that very same senario, but I think the tin foil skull cap I wear around all the time is supposed to stop government probing. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Steve M.
02-25-2002, 11:58 PM
they already have such a device I've seen show's on tv where a wild animal was captured the devise was implanted and the researchers would use a telavision antena looking thing to track the animals movements but as the devise was'nt that small and a surgical procedure was needed to implant the thing I always wondered how natural the animals movements would be after such a trauma and what the long term health effects would be but even if someone could make the devise small enough I think the effective range and life of the battery would not make it feasable but thats just my opinion and I'm no rocket scientist

Todd Evans
02-26-2002, 06:11 AM
I do remember seeing such a show....a documentary. &nbsp;They had catpured and implanted these big cylindrical things into a cobra mimick in Africa. &nbsp;They then had to be within like 5 miles of the animal to get a track on it. &nbsp;They would use the TV antenna looking thing to find it's precise location. &nbsp;They actually showed the process for implanting the tracking device. &nbsp;This thing was huge....about the size of a toilet paper roll. &nbsp;They said it had little to now effect on the snake (yeah right, try being the snake) &nbsp;I'm sure they COULD make smaller ones now, but instead of MAKING a million dollars, you may need to CHARGE a million dollars for the technology. &nbsp;It's a good Idea, but probably just as good an idea as snake leashes........hey, maybe it's just because it's 5 AM...but that's not bad...I'm a genious.....no offense Neil, now go smoke a cigarette and clean up some poop....I'm kidding, I'm a kidder, I kid............buh bye now....delerium has set in


02-26-2002, 01:04 PM
Hey maybe we can develop a microchip type like Neil said but instead of the beeping thing we can use Global Positioning Satelite to track it that way the snake can be anywhere in the world and we can get a fix position on it. it would come in very handy....$$$$$$$$$. I hear money <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>


Gary Walsch
03-16-2002, 12:01 AM
before I begin I want Beth to know that this is in no way intended to be a personal attack but ...... If Canada was so wonderful how come everyone from there comes to FLORIDA ? Is it possible Canada really sucks and you are the prime minister of tourism or something along those lines ? &nbsp;Just asking .... No offense. &nbsp;But I know how much I have invested in my animals and I cant begin to imagine if it was possible without endangering the health of the animal to track them all it would quadruple the cost of each herp. &nbsp;That alone would keep me from doing it. &nbsp;If you only have one or two animals then that would be different I guess.

Gary Walsch
Sunshine State Reptiles

By the way ...... Hockey is not everything ....