Hey guys my name is Eddy. I'm a reptile zookeeper. I have my personal collection of reptiles including a cape monitor, water monitor, breeding pair of boa's and 2 scorpions. I'm looking to purchase a Crocodile Monitor as well. I do reptile and wildlife talks and various schools and camps and i feel as if a croc would really be the final animal to make people say wow. I currently live in naples florida. I'm looking for a croc anywhere between 2-4 feet long and as calm as possible, i'm not afraid to work with them given the fact i work with komodo dragons everyday. I just want who ever I'm buying this animal from to understand it will be around people and children on a regular basis, i will use a harness and leash just like my cape and water monitor. If you are selling one please email me at [email protected].
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Wanted LOOKING FOR CROCODILE MONITOR
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Just in case you read what i wrote and your questioning if i know how to handle or take care of Crocodile Monitors just remember I'm a lead reptile keeper. I work with everything from a 17 foot retic to 14 foot to Alligators to Komodo Dragons all of which are hands on contact. So yes i know how to handle and take proper care of Crocodile Monitors. Also like i said before i can spend around $800.00 in total. I have an enclosure for it outside with branches and a nice sized pool. I have the money to take care of it but times are hard and spending more then $800.00 is to much. If anyone is selling Crocodile Monitors or knows of someone selling them let me know ok. Thank you
Just in case you read what i wrote and your questioning if i know how to handle or take care of Crocodile Monitors just remember I'm a lead reptile keeper. I work with everything from a 17 foot retic to 14 foot to Alligators to Komodo Dragons all of which are hands on contact. So yes i know how to handle and take proper care of Crocodile Monitors. Also like i said before i can spend around $800.00 in total. I have an enclosure for it outside with branches and a nice sized pool. I have the money to take care of it but times are hard and spending more then $800.00 is to much. If anyone is selling Crocodile Monitors or knows of someone selling them let me know ok. Thank you
AW2EOD
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Not trying to be rude, but if you think a Croc would be a good animal to take to a school/camp/wildlife talk, then you haven't the slightest idea about Crocs.
You, keeping what Monitors you do have, a pair of Boas and some Scorpions doesn't even come remotely close to the experiance/research/knowledge you need, before keeping a Croc for yourself.
You, keeping what Monitors you do have, a pair of Boas and some Scorpions doesn't even come remotely close to the experiance/research/knowledge you need, before keeping a Croc for yourself.
cursedj
Razor Sharp Reptiles
im pretty sure i read that right and he says hes a reptile keeper(as his career) who handles everything from komodos to retics...... i think he will be ok. hes asking to buy a monitor not start a debate on his knowledge.
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I have more then enough experience dealing with reptiles and monitors. And all the animals i bring around children or people i make sure they stay at least 15 feet away and no one is allowed to touch any of the animals i bring around. And all of my monitors get put on a harness and a leash, and i will never bring any animal around people if i feel like they will cause any harm to anyone or be a danger to anyone. I take extreme precautions before i do anything with any animals around people. Please im not looking for any personal opinions. I'm the lead reptile keeper at an AZA zoo. I know exactly what im doing and i've been doing this for quite some time. Thank you
I have more then enough experience dealing with reptiles and monitors. And all the animals i bring around children or people i make sure they stay at least 15 feet away and no one is allowed to touch any of the animals i bring around. And all of my monitors get put on a harness and a leash, and i will never bring any animal around people if i feel like they will cause any harm to anyone or be a danger to anyone. I take extreme precautions before i do anything with any animals around people. Please im not looking for any personal opinions. I'm the lead reptile keeper at an AZA zoo. I know exactly what im doing and i've been doing this for quite some time. Thank you
TailsWithScales
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I believe the last CBB babies came from the Chicago zoo last year. But captive bred specimens are for sale.
I personally have owned four Crocs and would not use them for educational shows unless they're in a cage. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence or start a debate but these guys are easily startled and will really mess you up if you happen to be holding them when it happens. Not to mention what will happen if a bunch of kids sees you get bit or clawed up. Again I really mean no offense and am not trying to be upsetting or rude.
I personally have owned four Crocs and would not use them for educational shows unless they're in a cage. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence or start a debate but these guys are easily startled and will really mess you up if you happen to be holding them when it happens. Not to mention what will happen if a bunch of kids sees you get bit or clawed up. Again I really mean no offense and am not trying to be upsetting or rude.
Thank you
Very much i will take it into consideration. Trust me i dont take offense very easily and i really appreciate you writing a response. See the only thing is i trained a Komodo Dragon to be used in a show and be taken around people. Many, many people told me it can't be done nor should it be done yet i did it and it worked. I know Croc's are flighty and i've seen pics of what they can do and yeah they can insane damage i won't deny that. I know the amount of effort and the amount of time that you have to put in with these animals and i'm more then willing to devote my time to it. Plus i love a challenge, see when i was training the Komodo when i personally thought it was ready to be exposed to a crowd of people i did it on a small scale. So when i train a crocodile monitor and i feel its ready to be exposed to people i will do it on an extremely small scale and slowly work up. I do like when people leave positive replies though. So tailswithscales thank you very much i honestly hope i hear back from you soon. Take care
Very much i will take it into consideration. Trust me i dont take offense very easily and i really appreciate you writing a response. See the only thing is i trained a Komodo Dragon to be used in a show and be taken around people. Many, many people told me it can't be done nor should it be done yet i did it and it worked. I know Croc's are flighty and i've seen pics of what they can do and yeah they can insane damage i won't deny that. I know the amount of effort and the amount of time that you have to put in with these animals and i'm more then willing to devote my time to it. Plus i love a challenge, see when i was training the Komodo when i personally thought it was ready to be exposed to a crowd of people i did it on a small scale. So when i train a crocodile monitor and i feel its ready to be exposed to people i will do it on an extremely small scale and slowly work up. I do like when people leave positive replies though. So tailswithscales thank you very much
i honestly hope i hear back from you soon. Take care
AW2EOD
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I wasn't trying to start a debate or insult his intelligence.
I was speaking from a Croc Monitor owners point of view, on the subject...an owner to a very large, male Croc. A very large, male that tolerates me touching him, petting him, picking him up, etc. And even then, what you're saying is throwing numerous red flags up.
I'm friends with the person who bought the CB pair, from the Chicago show, last year. I'm also friends with the person who SOLD the CB pair, at the Chicago show.
I've worked with Komodo before, as well as 20'+ Retics and Green Annies.
Crocs are not show animals. They're not interactive animals. They're more intelligent than we'll ever know. They're very dangerous animals.
I've done educational show, schools, etc and even though every animal I've ever taken was docile, you still never know. As Christine said, they will "mess you up". And, even though it's the holder that's going to get torn up, it's not good to expose kids to that.
You putting the words "Croc" and "tame" into the same sentence is almost borderline rediculous. It doesn't happen. They're not a Savannah Monitor. You, stating that you're wanting to put a Croc on a harness and leash just solidifies my opinion. Talk to ANY long term Croc keeper and tell them you're wanting to put one on a leash. You won't even begin to imagine the flaming you're going to take.
Again, not trying to start a debate. Just trying to state an very knowledgable opinion. There are already too many people out there, trying to ban our hobby. The last thing we need, in the new is "Reptile keeper takes Crocodile Monitor to school. Keeper and kids injured. Monitor killed."
I was speaking from a Croc Monitor owners point of view, on the subject...an owner to a very large, male Croc. A very large, male that tolerates me touching him, petting him, picking him up, etc. And even then, what you're saying is throwing numerous red flags up.
I'm friends with the person who bought the CB pair, from the Chicago show, last year. I'm also friends with the person who SOLD the CB pair, at the Chicago show.
I've worked with Komodo before, as well as 20'+ Retics and Green Annies.
Crocs are not show animals. They're not interactive animals. They're more intelligent than we'll ever know. They're very dangerous animals.
I've done educational show, schools, etc and even though every animal I've ever taken was docile, you still never know. As Christine said, they will "mess you up". And, even though it's the holder that's going to get torn up, it's not good to expose kids to that.
You putting the words "Croc" and "tame" into the same sentence is almost borderline rediculous. It doesn't happen. They're not a Savannah Monitor. You, stating that you're wanting to put a Croc on a harness and leash just solidifies my opinion. Talk to ANY long term Croc keeper and tell them you're wanting to put one on a leash. You won't even begin to imagine the flaming you're going to take.
Again, not trying to start a debate. Just trying to state an very knowledgable opinion. There are already too many people out there, trying to ban our hobby. The last thing we need, in the new is "Reptile keeper takes Crocodile Monitor to school. Keeper and kids injured. Monitor killed."
Ok well the thing is i've had many people tell me you can't train alligators or crocodiles and guess what? people have done it, i've seen alligators target trained and crocodiles trained to shift. My point is Croc Monitors are very very inteligent therefore if you work with them and handle them you can get them somewhat used to being around people or even wearing a harness and how do i know this? because i have talked to fellow aza reptile keepers and the majority feel how i feel, on top of the fact that if i do work with a croc and i cannot put a harness on it or it doesn't get comfortable around people then guess what? i dont take it around people no big deal. Either way i LOVE croc monitors so i'll take good care of it whether i can use it for shows or not. SOO all in all i KNOW what im doing and i have been taking care of dangerous animals and training dangerous animals for a very long time, needless to say i dont owe anyone any kind of explanation. If you have a crocodile monitor you are selling or know of where i can get one that is under 5 feet in length let me know. ALSO if you have a croc monitor for sale BUT all you've fed it is rats and mice and rabbits i'm not interested. Thank you
hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
This is not a discussion forum, people. I understand the points you are trying to make, but this is not the place to do it. Take it to PM, or to a different section of the site.
TreeCroc
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If this is NOT a discussion, then why is there a question or better yet a "sale" pitch looking for one? After all of the information on Efigs experience why would it need to be stated - if he is in need of a croc then maybe the classifieds would be a better choice...
Efigs-
while I applaud your wanting to teach children about reptiles, your choice in crocodile monitors is at best, very poor. I have kept and bred crocodile monitors for years, as well have I worked with many other large varanids.
Unlike the 2 other varanids you have posted about, Salvadorii at 18 inches can inflict deep bites. At 2-5 feet you’re asking for trouble. Kids ( which I have done the same, "in the schools, field trips and what not" are ALWAYS a problem - most don't listen, no matter "how far away" you have them. End result in particular with a nervous, flighty croc you or some one else will be in a delicate situation. If you try to "man handle" them your asking for even more trouble, not to mention pushing them into a fight or flight situation.
If you really want to teach children about croc monitors then buy a map of PNG, take some good pictures, and do a speech on them with out a live animal. As interesting as crocs are you can expand on the whole of PNG from their Birds of Paradise, to unique cultures. Overall, in my experience most kids could care less about how "rare" or exotic a snake or lizard is, as long as it's big you have their attention. When you get into high school and college, were grades may matter then their is interest.
well the thing is i've had many people tell me you can't train alligators or crocodiles and guess what? people have done it, i've seen alligators target trained and crocodiles trained to shift. My point is Croc Monitors are very very inteligent therefore if you work with them and handle them you can get them somewhat used to being around people or even wearing a harness and how do i know this? because i have talked to fellow aza reptile keepers and the majority feel how i feel, on top of the fact that if i do work with a croc and i cannot put a harness on it or it doesn't get comfortable around people then guess what? i dont take it around people no big deal. Either way i LOVE croc monitors so i'll take good care of it whether i can use it for shows or not. SOO all in all i KNOW what im doing and i have been taking care of dangerous animals and training dangerous animals for a very long time, needless to say i dont owe anyone any kind of explanation. If you have a crocodile monitor you are selling or know of where i can get one that is under 5 feet in length let me know. ALSO if you have a croc monitor for sale BUT all you've fed it is rats and mice and rabbits i'm not interested. Thank you
Not sure were to start with all of this, your all over the place. If you have so much experience with all these large, and deadly reptiles then why do you need to express it? Very few crocs are in US zoos, as of 2008 the number was in the 20's down from 30 from 2005. If you feel you need a harness FOR ANY MONITOR - THEN YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE A MONITOR!!, there are not DOGS..just because your friend is in the AZA doesn't make him or her an expert on croc monitors.
And you’re correct, Crocs are extremely intelligent- and extremely aggressive when you are unable to pick up on the subtle clues they give when there are not in the mood for show and tell.
You don't own anyone an explanation - well you owe me, to many laws are being written on reptiles these days, and croc monitors are under the guise of "dangerous" - they don't need anymore bad press because people like you feel the need to show them for your benefit.
This does belong as a discussion, if it leads to more bans on reptiles in particular monitors then it needs to be pointed it out in all of its points, whether good or bad -
So if rodents are not ideal prey, then please tell me with all your croc experience what is ?
Efigs-
while I applaud your wanting to teach children about reptiles, your choice in crocodile monitors is at best, very poor. I have kept and bred crocodile monitors for years, as well have I worked with many other large varanids.
Unlike the 2 other varanids you have posted about, Salvadorii at 18 inches can inflict deep bites. At 2-5 feet you’re asking for trouble. Kids ( which I have done the same, "in the schools, field trips and what not" are ALWAYS a problem - most don't listen, no matter "how far away" you have them. End result in particular with a nervous, flighty croc you or some one else will be in a delicate situation. If you try to "man handle" them your asking for even more trouble, not to mention pushing them into a fight or flight situation.
If you really want to teach children about croc monitors then buy a map of PNG, take some good pictures, and do a speech on them with out a live animal. As interesting as crocs are you can expand on the whole of PNG from their Birds of Paradise, to unique cultures. Overall, in my experience most kids could care less about how "rare" or exotic a snake or lizard is, as long as it's big you have their attention. When you get into high school and college, were grades may matter then their is interest.
well the thing is i've had many people tell me you can't train alligators or crocodiles and guess what? people have done it, i've seen alligators target trained and crocodiles trained to shift. My point is Croc Monitors are very very inteligent therefore if you work with them and handle them you can get them somewhat used to being around people or even wearing a harness and how do i know this? because i have talked to fellow aza reptile keepers and the majority feel how i feel, on top of the fact that if i do work with a croc and i cannot put a harness on it or it doesn't get comfortable around people then guess what? i dont take it around people no big deal. Either way i LOVE croc monitors so i'll take good care of it whether i can use it for shows or not. SOO all in all i KNOW what im doing and i have been taking care of dangerous animals and training dangerous animals for a very long time, needless to say i dont owe anyone any kind of explanation. If you have a crocodile monitor you are selling or know of where i can get one that is under 5 feet in length let me know. ALSO if you have a croc monitor for sale BUT all you've fed it is rats and mice and rabbits i'm not interested. Thank you
Not sure were to start with all of this, your all over the place. If you have so much experience with all these large, and deadly reptiles then why do you need to express it? Very few crocs are in US zoos, as of 2008 the number was in the 20's down from 30 from 2005. If you feel you need a harness FOR ANY MONITOR - THEN YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE A MONITOR!!, there are not DOGS..just because your friend is in the AZA doesn't make him or her an expert on croc monitors.
And you’re correct, Crocs are extremely intelligent- and extremely aggressive when you are unable to pick up on the subtle clues they give when there are not in the mood for show and tell.
You don't own anyone an explanation - well you owe me, to many laws are being written on reptiles these days, and croc monitors are under the guise of "dangerous" - they don't need anymore bad press because people like you feel the need to show them for your benefit.
This does belong as a discussion, if it leads to more bans on reptiles in particular monitors then it needs to be pointed it out in all of its points, whether good or bad -
So if rodents are not ideal prey, then please tell me with all your croc experience what is ?
hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
Perhaps you should figure out where you are, this IS the classifieds.
Now, since you seem to have misread my last post, THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION FORUM (it's the classifieds, as shown above). Take the chatter elsewhere. I'm not going to bother with any more infractions - if the discussion continues in this thread, people are going to lose posting privileges for a few days. Who wants to be first?
This is insane it really is, as a matter of fact do me a favor check out st augustine alligator farm which is an AZA zoo and they have KOMODO DRAGONS ON A HARNESS! I know what im doing ok and i honestly don't care what your opinion is. And rodents? Thats what you think they should eat? Soooo in the wild is a croc monitor only going to eat rats and mice? Let me guess they will see a bird or even eggs and say to themselves wait im only supposed to eat rats right? is that what your saying??? Their diet should vary, they should get chicken, turkey, raw beef, rats and mice at most once a week, eggs, chicken hearts, liver etc. Look i really dont have to explain myself. If you have a crocodile monitor for sale or know where i could find one let me know otherwise keep your annoying opinions to yourself. I know what im doing and dont really care what anyone's opinion's are. I've trained komodo's to sit still while they have a harness put on them, i've seen alligators trained to shift and to be target trained. And if your wondering why i said all the things i've done its because i want to keep people that think i want their opinion to really just keep their mouths shut. Again thank you.
AW2EOD
New member
The last thing I'll say, on the particular matter, is that I hope no one who's knowlegable enough, sells you a Croc Monitor, for what you're wanting it for...because you really have no experiance, knowledge or experiance with Crocs and just because you say you've done this and that, it really doesn't amount to squat.
hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
That's two down....anybody want to be #3??
So does anyone have a crocodile monitor for sale that is under 5 feet in length or know of anyone selling crocodile monitors?? I cannot spend over 800 and that is including shipping. So all in all i can purchase a monitor and and pay for the shipping if it is all equal to 800 dollars. Get back to me if you have any information
Well if anyone know's of anyone selling a Crocodile Monitor OR know's anyone that is selling them OR even know's any breeders selling Crocodile Monitor's let me know ok. My email is [email protected]. Hope to hear from you guys. =)
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