This is my pair of 2003 Mex mex from Mountainkings.com. I am shooting for breeding efforts in the Spring of '06. I have other Mex Mex, but these are by far my favorites and a much anticipated breeding project. The first two pics are of the male. Let me know what you think!
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- Thread starter Nate
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Great snakes , but
I would have to ask you what would your ultimate goal be on breeding. If for resale of off-springs, they are about the bottom of the barrel in the mexicana group for appreciation. I don't know why it is that way but I bred them as well as the San Luis Potosi and Thayeri and I just didn't have much luck on un-loading the Mex-Mex. I also saw this as being a former reptile show vendor of about 2 shows/expos per month for 4 years. There was very little enthusiasm on the Mex-Mex and just a tad more on the other species of this family. Maybe times have changed though. There WAS a larger interest on the mexicana group when the price of the Gray-Bands ( alterna ) was still high in price at the early years. And I surely believe this is one of the reasons for not so much interest since the price of alterna has dropped at almost a all time low and has been that way for several years. But never-the-less, I still like the mex-mex.
mike chambers
I would have to ask you what would your ultimate goal be on breeding. If for resale of off-springs, they are about the bottom of the barrel in the mexicana group for appreciation. I don't know why it is that way but I bred them as well as the San Luis Potosi and Thayeri and I just didn't have much luck on un-loading the Mex-Mex. I also saw this as being a former reptile show vendor of about 2 shows/expos per month for 4 years. There was very little enthusiasm on the Mex-Mex and just a tad more on the other species of this family. Maybe times have changed though. There WAS a larger interest on the mexicana group when the price of the Gray-Bands ( alterna ) was still high in price at the early years. And I surely believe this is one of the reasons for not so much interest since the price of alterna has dropped at almost a all time low and has been that way for several years. But never-the-less, I still like the mex-mex.
mike chambers
Interesting points, Mike. I agree, they are under appreciated. I have had a different pair up for sale at my tables for awhile now. I always get comments on how they are nice and nobody sees them anymore, but no takers.
As far as why I would breed these two, I really just like them. In my opinion, they are outstanding representations of the Mex mex. Simply put they are fun little snakes. I think they are a pleasure to work with and they remind of many of the reasons of why I became involved with herps years ago. And if they generate some revenue to pay for themselves and allow me to branch out into new projects then that's an added bonus!
As far as why I would breed these two, I really just like them. In my opinion, they are outstanding representations of the Mex mex. Simply put they are fun little snakes. I think they are a pleasure to work with and they remind of many of the reasons of why I became involved with herps years ago. And if they generate some revenue to pay for themselves and allow me to branch out into new projects then that's an added bonus!
Nice mex mex
Nate great looking mexicanas.
For years I've had Cal Kings, now I have a pair of San Luis Potosi and a Nuevo Leon Thayeri and I kick myself that I didn't get into this mexicana ssp. earlier. I agree they are definately underappreciated, but I won't be surprised if their popularity grows in the future as the hobby does too. I think they are pretty incedible, especially thier temperents compared to some other species. The is a sub-forum on kingsnake.com just for the mexicana ssp. and with the thayeri and other mexicana ssp. it's got some of best pictures of kingsnakes there. Those are an attractive pair Nate and should produce great babies and hopefully by 2006 there will be more of a demand and people looking for them.
Uncloudy
Nate great looking mexicanas.
For years I've had Cal Kings, now I have a pair of San Luis Potosi and a Nuevo Leon Thayeri and I kick myself that I didn't get into this mexicana ssp. earlier. I agree they are definately underappreciated, but I won't be surprised if their popularity grows in the future as the hobby does too. I think they are pretty incedible, especially thier temperents compared to some other species. The is a sub-forum on kingsnake.com just for the mexicana ssp. and with the thayeri and other mexicana ssp. it's got some of best pictures of kingsnakes there. Those are an attractive pair Nate and should produce great babies and hopefully by 2006 there will be more of a demand and people looking for them.
Uncloudy
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Cool tongue shot in that pic and a nice snake as well.
I think Mex Mex have great display potential with their vibrant coloring and inquisitiveness. I'm working on creating a naturalistic vivaria for the male. Maybe that would also generate some interest from prospective buyers. Anybody have any ideas for landscaping? I have general knowledge of their natural habitat, however, i would welcome some ideas for the set-up.
I think Mex Mex have great display potential with their vibrant coloring and inquisitiveness. I'm working on creating a naturalistic vivaria for the male. Maybe that would also generate some interest from prospective buyers. Anybody have any ideas for landscaping? I have general knowledge of their natural habitat, however, i would welcome some ideas for the set-up.
TY Nate.
All I know about my baby mex mex's from my experience is that they are very reclusive and secretive and I only seem them out at dusk. Maybe, if you were to have them on display you could incorporate hides for the mex mex that were open to the glass and people could see them from there. I think the best selling point is their great dispositions and temperments by having people handle them, in that aspect they remind me alot of a cornsnake. My male San Luis Potosi in that pic above when I handle him always clings to me like a boa or python and has never been flighty whatsoever. And you will probably have repeat customers year after year if your selling mex's that are feeding on f/t pinks really well.
Good luck,
Uncloudy
All I know about my baby mex mex's from my experience is that they are very reclusive and secretive and I only seem them out at dusk. Maybe, if you were to have them on display you could incorporate hides for the mex mex that were open to the glass and people could see them from there. I think the best selling point is their great dispositions and temperments by having people handle them, in that aspect they remind me alot of a cornsnake. My male San Luis Potosi in that pic above when I handle him always clings to me like a boa or python and has never been flighty whatsoever. And you will probably have repeat customers year after year if your selling mex's that are feeding on f/t pinks really well.
Good luck,
Uncloudy
Good advice on veiwable hide spots
Also, frozen/thawed are a must in my opinion. I have one animal (an adult Children's python) in my whole collection that has been stubborn about frozen/thawed and she just rescently was converted from live mice. I also was surprised that the Mex Mex seem to prefer humid hide spots over dry.
Also, frozen/thawed are a must in my opinion. I have one animal (an adult Children's python) in my whole collection that has been stubborn about frozen/thawed and she just rescently was converted from live mice. I also was surprised that the Mex Mex seem to prefer humid hide spots over dry.
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2 things that i like about you Uncloudy
you like the mexicana group and your avatar > ? avitar > ? picture of Hendrix. LOL ! Probably the the best guitar player of blues ever. My personal best by Hendrix is Machine Gun and Hear My Train Comin'. How's that for a upper 50 year old guy like me. It was GREAT news when i heard that all of Jimis' songs was or is remastered into digital for acoustics for including the deeper bass. ( maybe not to some people likes though and I'll stop rambling now ! ).
you like the mexicana group and your avatar > ? avitar > ? picture of Hendrix. LOL ! Probably the the best guitar player of blues ever. My personal best by Hendrix is Machine Gun and Hear My Train Comin'. How's that for a upper 50 year old guy like me. It was GREAT news when i heard that all of Jimis' songs was or is remastered into digital for acoustics for including the deeper bass. ( maybe not to some people likes though and I'll stop rambling now ! ).
Uncloudy said:
TY old guy
Right now my favorite Hendrix song is a live version of Hey Baby, I really like the intro and have been trying to get it on my guitar. I was collecting Hendrix long before snakes and if you've got any bootlegs or rare recordings give me a pm and we'll trade. Any YES the mexicana ssp. is and incredible and beautiful species.
Uncloudy
Right now my favorite Hendrix song is a live version of Hey Baby, I really like the intro and have been trying to get it on my guitar. I was collecting Hendrix long before snakes and if you've got any bootlegs or rare recordings give me a pm and we'll trade. Any YES the mexicana ssp. is and incredible and beautiful species.
Uncloudy
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You have that one with
Buddy Miles jamming with Hendrix ? I have heard that they are producing a digital release of Hendrix at Wood Stock since on the normal past songs of that event ( I was in Fort Leonard Wood as a draftee or I would of surely gone ) and movie/documetry doesn't have all of his work/songs at the time of the event.
Mike Chambers
Buddy Miles jamming with Hendrix ? I have heard that they are producing a digital release of Hendrix at Wood Stock since on the normal past songs of that event ( I was in Fort Leonard Wood as a draftee or I would of surely gone ) and movie/documetry doesn't have all of his work/songs at the time of the event.
Mike Chambers
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