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Scarlett_Fawn
03-10-2005, 06:58 PM
Why oh why did hognose.com have to go down just when I was wondering about madagascans? Can anyone tell me about what their temp/housing requirements are? How big do they usually get? Does anyone have pics they can show me (of the golden ones?)

Also, I saw a couple of hogs listed on hognose.com that were grouped into a "neotropical" category that looked WAY cool. Can anyone tell me about those?

Much thanks all!

Evil Elvis
03-15-2005, 05:17 AM
Heres a few piccys of my goldenshttp://www.livefoodshop.co.uk/forum/uploads/post-7-1108168744_thumb.jpg

Evil Elvis
03-15-2005, 05:17 AM
http://www.livefoodshop.co.uk/forum/uploads/post-7-1108168775_thumb.jpg

Evil Elvis
03-15-2005, 05:18 AM
http://www.livefoodshop.co.uk/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=20794

Evil Elvis
03-15-2005, 05:19 AM
http://www.livefoodshop.co.uk/forum/uploads/post-7-1108168823_thumb.jpg

Evil Elvis
03-15-2005, 05:20 AM
http://www.livefoodshop.co.uk/forum/uploads/post-7-1108168853_thumb.jpg

Scarlett_Fawn
03-16-2005, 01:55 AM
Oooh, very nice "colour..." if I may say so. (:oD

How do you house these guys?

Evil Elvis
03-21-2005, 02:31 PM
I keep them in a 3x2x2 vision viv, with an orchid bark and sphagnum moss substrate, with a hide box filled with more moss and a large shallow waterdish.

The BoidSmith
03-25-2005, 11:18 PM
Brenda,

Are you talking about the Genus "Lystrophis"? Because right now I'm working with L. semicinctus and L. uruguayensis.

Regards.

Scarlett_Fawn
03-26-2005, 02:32 PM
Hi, Dan-

'Fraid not... I don't recall what the genus was, but it wasn't a "tricolor" (though, I am not sure what "uruguayensis" is, I presume it's another tricolor like semicinctus.)

These hogs had unusually big eyes and seemed to be slimmer than most hogs. I don't remember that well anymore, but I believe there were 2 different species of these showcased on hognose.com and they were either bluish or brown.

Whatever they are, I guess they aren't readily available to the pet trade...

Do you two feed your golden/tricolor hogs anything but mice? I seem to recall reading somewhere that hogs other than westerns need something other than or dislike a diet of just mice. Is that true?

Brenda

The BoidSmith
03-26-2005, 02:54 PM
Most of mine take pre-killed wet mice readily. One male L. uruguayensis is a little reluctant to take mice and prefers tadpoles. He will take the mice if I previously give him a tadpole (or a green tree frog also), and then scent a fuzzy mouse with a tadpole. During the winter is a little challenging to find them, but I'm able to order them from a company that sells them for school projects.

Regards.

Evil Elvis
03-27-2005, 06:46 AM
The ones on the pictures are my adult pair, to be honest I am struggling to get them to eat. I have a pair of babies and theyare eating live pinks/fuzzies.My tricolours all eat mice with gusto!http://www.livefoodshop.co.uk/forum/uploads/post-7-1088461450.jpg

Evil Elvis
03-27-2005, 06:49 AM
http://www.livefoodshop.co.uk/forum/uploads/post-7-1083625624.jpg

Evil Elvis
03-27-2005, 06:50 AM
http://www.livefoodshop.co.uk/forum/uploads/post-7-1096885553.jpg

Evil Elvis
03-27-2005, 06:51 AM
http://www.livefoodshop.co.uk/forum/uploads/post-7-1096885597.jpg

The BoidSmith
03-27-2005, 10:00 AM
Incredibly looking animals Barry, congratulations! Particularly the "aberrant" baby in the last picture. Never seen something like her. Have you tried scenting with toads? My L. uruguayensis (formerly D'Orbigny) are well known because they are difficult to feed unless on a diet of amphibians. I was able to switch them to pre-soaked dead fuzzys (the female which is larger will take hoppers) but they all went through a "scenting" period with green tree frogs (Hyla) or bullfrog tadpoles.

Regards.

Evil Elvis
03-27-2005, 01:30 PM
Thanks, yes I have tried that, only I dont have any toads, i have tried scenting with white and pacman frogs (which I keep). I will get them going, I have to, they are too rare not to!!!!

I last saw a pair of D'Orbigny years ago and were very expensive, have you bred them?

The BoidSmith
03-27-2005, 02:34 PM
Well, I also have a pacman for scenting purposes but they don't seem to be interested. That's odd considering both have similar distribution in South America and I would suspect they should be a natural prey. The D'Orbigny are ready to breed this season.

Regards.

Evil Elvis
03-27-2005, 03:55 PM
What price would a pair be? :)

The BoidSmith
03-27-2005, 04:15 PM
Market price ;) The only pair that I saw up for sale was in KS almost a year ago. I can't remember how much they were asking for both at that point, but I do remember they were accepting trades for a spider ball python. That would give you an idea of how much they were going for.

Regards.

Evil Elvis
03-27-2005, 05:37 PM
Do you like hondurans? i could swap you a nice pair of 2004 snows, unrelated too? :)

The BoidSmith
03-27-2005, 07:04 PM
Barry,

I really appreciate your offer but I'm planning on keeping all the animals to form a breeding colony.

Thanks :)

Evil Elvis
03-28-2005, 06:00 PM
DOH!!!!! :bawling:

The BoidSmith
03-28-2005, 09:00 PM
Barry,

One way or the other let's stay in touch. Who knows what the future might bring. So you know I'm a sucker for hondurans too. ;)

Evil Elvis
03-29-2005, 05:59 PM
Lol, no i didnt know, I just have a couple of pairs of snows left over to barter with! :cool:

Evil Elvis
03-31-2005, 06:54 PM
I hope to have a few more this year anyway!

serpentes
11-13-2005, 01:21 AM
Dear Barry,

I came across a photo and reference to a dicephalic Lystrophis on the livefoodshop.com website. I am not yet a member (but have registered to join) but I am hoping the message and photo were posted by either you or your colleague.

I have been studying two-headed snakes for many years and am trying to document specimens (dead or alive) that are in private collections as they rarely make it into the scientific literature.

I would like to contact the owner of the two-nosed hognose snake. If it is you, terrific. If not, please help if you can.

Thanks very much, Van

serpentes
11-13-2005, 01:22 AM
Dear Barry,

I came across a photo and reference to a dicephalic Lystrophis on the livefoodshop.com website. I am not yet a member (but have registered to join) but I am hoping the message and photo were posted by either you or your colleague.

I have been studying two-headed snakes for many years and am trying to document specimens (dead or alive) that are in private collections as they rarely make it into the scientific literature.

I would like to contact the owner of the two-nosed hognose snake. If it is you, terrific. If not, please help if you can.

Thanks very much, Van