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Hey Robin,

I have dug around some (and will some more) and have not found any compatible motherboards that are meeting your needs. I have found some that have 6 PCI slots, but only 2 or 3 memory slots, or 4 memory slots and 5 PCI slots. I will dig around some more tomorrow or Monday and see what I can find.
 
he said he could live with 5 pci slots (if thats the same thing as expansion slots) because he has several empty slots as is but he just doesnt want to down grade (on the whole) the motherboard. if anything he wants to upgrade it to something that will work with his existing stuff but something as equal will work fine too
 
and he sais he would rather have sim rather than dim (i dont know why he wants this)... whats the difference and is sim any better than dim or vice versa?
 
Well by using the sim he can use the memory he already has instead of having to buy new memory as well.

Ask him what memory he has right now. There should be a small label on the memory module itself. Ask him for the info off of that label, please. That will help me make sure that the new motherboard is 100% compatible with his current memory.

Also, most new motherboards have NIC cards and other features built into the motherboard now that used to take up PCI slots (aka: expansion slots). So 6 PCI slots is really not needed or as important as it once was.
 
Frankly, the SIMM memory part is what has me stumped. You cannot use SIMM memory with any processor since the original Pentium as I recall. That would put this machine at at least 8 years old and maybe older????

Everything sold for desktop computing since even before 2000 uses DIMM memory. Are you sure he doesn't have SDRAM??? There are plenty of boards 4 or 5 years old that use SDRAM but cannot accept DDR.

If he wants a board that will accept SDRAM, you are in a bit of a tight place. The odds of finding a new motherboard that will take SDRAM are pretty slim. I needed one about 6 months ago and had to resort to buying a used motherboard.
 
Yeah that is why I was asking for the info off the label on the memory.
 
Ask him what memory he has right now. There should be a small label on the memory module itself. Ask him for the info off of that label, please. That will help me make sure that the new motherboard is 100% compatible with his current memory.
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it has two labels
first lable = CMTL ADVANCED
Registered
B001-133-727
www.cmtlabs.com

second label = 6432ZKDXA4G17TWK-0F1
[barcode]
[barcode]
32ZKDSTK4037437

he says they are samsung chipps

he says the computer was made for him 2 years ago not anything bought from the store it has an AMD processor not a pentium

ok now since you brought up the sdram he doesnt know if it's sdram or sim but he has four slots with only one mempory card in it

as far as the PCI slots he has 6 and he is currently using 3 of them, one is used for sound card, one for the modem and one for a networking card
 
starwarsdad said:
Frankly, the SIMM memory part is what has me stumped. You cannot use SIMM memory with any processor since the original Pentium as I recall. That would put this machine at at least 8 years old and maybe older????

Everything sold for desktop computing since even before 2000 uses DIMM memory. Are you sure he doesn't have SDRAM??? There are plenty of boards 4 or 5 years old that use SDRAM but cannot accept DDR.

If he wants a board that will accept SDRAM, you are in a bit of a tight place. The odds of finding a new motherboard that will take SDRAM are pretty slim. I needed one about 6 months ago and had to resort to buying a used motherboard.
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I was thinking the same thing. The processor was a 1.5 ghz too (kinda of confused on that too, unless its a amd xp proc. I looked up the motherboard info of the current one. http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=28 and it shows DDR ram only.
 
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/motherboards/abit/kg7/
here are the specs to the mother board... only thing is russ is using a phoenix BIOS chip... could it be the phoenix BIOS chip thats causing the problem? it used to work fine then died (sorta)... holy crap this thing has been giving him an error beep beep he just turns the damn thing on after a few weeks and it is loading wtf? i mean just right this second after many beeps and attempts and what not i think its friggon haunted
 
I have another question. What made you guys come to the conclussion that there is a problem with the Bios?
 
russ frigged up and tried to add a hard drive to his sytem that was apparantly not compatable (from my old dead computer LOL to try and save some programs and files that we did not have on disk anywhere) it imediately went to a blank screen and started a constant beep... russ removed thed the hard drive and tried to reboot with the same ummm sucess ... blank screen and constant beeping... i figured maybe it was his OS so i went out and got him winder XP pro and he had his back up file for MS-DOS... we tried installing that, we tried the hd and everything still contsant beep... it was horrible
so,we went to the BIOS page because we kept on hearing all the damn beeps (beep codes) now none of our matched any of the phoenix beep codes except for 1 beep but continuosly (let me tell you there be shee-it loads of beep codes for the phoenix BIOS chip)
our only conclusion it was one of two things the BIOS or motherboard
 
Robin has russ tried removing and replacing each attached pci card and memory and re-inserting them. It kinda sounds like maybe something was bumped loose.
 
yes we tried all that... but just a few minutes ago he booted her up and if she didnt begin to boot so he had to install the HD, then the MS-Dos and now it is installing the winder XP pro... i dont know
i look at all the specs for the mother board and it has a totally different BIOS chip than what we have... i dont know if this was meant to be an upgrade or what (since this was built for us)... thats another reason we thought it might have been the motherboard or BIOS
 
I hate to be a quitter, but this one is beyond my support skills over the web. I can do nearly anything with / to a box that I can lay hands on, but trying to diagnose one over the web is a different matter.

I do NOT mean this as an insult, but it will be a HUGE headache for me to come through if you guys cannot tell the difference in SIMM memory and SDRAM. I need eyes that I can trust to do it remotely.

Many apologies!
Dean
 
i do understand but at the link i provided it says:
"When DDR memory first came out, it was hard to be convinced that the performance gain by making the switch from regular SDRAM to DDR was worth the money. Several motherboard manufacturers recognized this and decided to sit back and wait before jumping on the DDR bandwagon. ABIT, the pioneer in overclocking motherboards, was one such company. Once the technology supporting DDR became solid, ABIT slammed down a motherboard that struck fear into the hearts of their competition, the KG7-RAID. With the motto "DDR done right", the KG7-RAID was suppose to be one of the fastest, if not THE FASTEST, DDR motherboard on the market. "

then later in the specs area it states: "Memory
Four 184-pin DIMM sockets support up to 4 GB PC1600/PC2100 DDR SDRAM module"
 
robin s. said:
i do understand but at the link i provided it says:
"When DDR memory first came out, it was hard to be convinced that the performance gain by making the switch from regular SDRAM to DDR was worth the money. Several motherboard manufacturers recognized this and decided to sit back and wait before jumping on the DDR bandwagon. ABIT, the pioneer in overclocking motherboards, was one such company. Once the technology supporting DDR became solid, ABIT slammed down a motherboard that struck fear into the hearts of their competition, the KG7-RAID. With the motto "DDR done right", the KG7-RAID was suppose to be one of the fastest, if not THE FASTEST, DDR motherboard on the market. "

then later in the specs area it states: "Memory
Four 184-pin DIMM sockets support up to 4 GB PC1600/PC2100 DDR SDRAM module"
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Basically it states that this was one of the first motherboard's to abandon the SDram memory slots. Around this time motherboards used to have 4 slots for memory, but 2 were for DDRram, while the other 2 were for SDram.
 
well damn if we aint starting to get somewhere... it seems like that on allot of the sites i been reading too however i do not understand all the techie jargon LOL so i wanted to make for sure
thanks!!
 
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