My female now weighs 210 grams on an empty stomach. The problem is my male weighs 52 grams now because he hasn't eaten for a month. He was weight 58 grams. Is he big enough to breed or should I hold off and try getting him bigger?
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Kenyan Breeding
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aliceinwl
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I've read that this is fairly common in males. Your question caused me to remember this thread on KS: http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=750091,750091 . Hopefully that helps and some kenyan breeders will chime in too.
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Lee Herps
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I have had several 8month old male kenyans breed without cooling. Sometimes they are just ready early.
Well my girl is now over 300 grams. The last 2 weeks she had struck at her mouse and held on seeming interested but did not eat. I thought I read somewhere that could mean she is getting ready to give birth. It is possible because I have put my male on her several times. What should I look for? I'm cautiously optimistic and any info would be great.
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Even about a month before my girl dropped her babies, she was very fat. She ended up having 13 babies, but I imagine even with a smaller clutch, it is noticable. Here is a pic. It is not the best, but you can get an idea. This was month 3. She ended up having her babies a month after this pic.
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Karen Hulvey
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Nice snake.
My KSB had babies a day after I fed her a hopper mouse. I didn't even know she was gravid. I had seen the m&f breeding a few months before but she never had a noticeable bulge. Yours very well could be preggers. LOL
My KSB had babies a day after I fed her a hopper mouse. I didn't even know she was gravid. I had seen the m&f breeding a few months before but she never had a noticeable bulge. Yours very well could be preggers. LOL
Karen Hulvey
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One word: EASY! She had 2.4, all ate live pinkies two days after their first shed and never missed a meal after that. After the first few feedings, I started offering them the live pinks off tongs and then switched to F/T off tongs and all took them. I gave mom this year off and I will soon be introducing a male to her. I have 2.8 KSBs and all are big enough to breed now. I've been moving my anery males from cage to cage and hopefully someone is gravid.
Karen Hulvey
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I've ended up breeding my own mice and a few rats. Here's a tip for you. If you're using water bottles put imitation vanilla at about 8 drops to 8-12 ounces. It really knocks the stink down considerably. I also sprinkle baking soda librally in the shavings every time I clean them which is about every 4 days.
If you aren't using water bottles but are using a watering system: DON"T USE THE IMITATION VANILLA! It gums up the tubes and you'll have a mess to end all messes. Trust me on this one. I did it at work to one of their Freedom Breeder mouse racks. Messy, messy, messy and not fun at all.
If you aren't using water bottles but are using a watering system: DON"T USE THE IMITATION VANILLA! It gums up the tubes and you'll have a mess to end all messes. Trust me on this one. I did it at work to one of their Freedom Breeder mouse racks. Messy, messy, messy and not fun at all.
male size
I have a male that's just barely 40 grams and he's a daddy. For males it isn't about size, just about having the hormones and the goods ready to go. Females are more about size.
If you try it and it fails, oh well, weight til next year. But trying won't hurt him, only make his lil' snaky face smile more.
I have a male that's just barely 40 grams and he's a daddy. For males it isn't about size, just about having the hormones and the goods ready to go. Females are more about size.
If you try it and it fails, oh well, weight til next year. But trying won't hurt him, only make his lil' snaky face smile more.
Karen Hulvey said:
Lucky. I have the only 2 baby kenyans on the planet I think who have to be pinkie pumped
. Their sisters and brother figured it out but they're a bit stubborn. Tried everything, still trying. Maybe sometime they will eat for me.