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What happened to the HAYDEN Banner???

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What happened to the HAYDEN banner here on Fauna? I have it on my website, and have seen it on almost every website I frequent. I don’t see it on Fauna anymore. How come?
 
It will be returning shortly, dont worry. The reason it disappeared is tied in with Chris's being banned, etc, as he was hosting the banner. Chris knows it disappeared and is getting it back online for us ASAP.
 
Just so there is no misunderstanding here, Chris requested a refund of his outstanding funds for his banner ads. That included the one linking to the auction section on his website. I complied with his request.
 
do you mean to tell me that durring this horrible tragedy, chris was HAVING to pay for that link to be up... and it was not donated in the hammacks time of need?

rich you have done and said allot of things that i did not agree with and allot that i have however this to me is totally ubeilievable and a complete lack of respect for people whom has given so much to the ENTIRE REPTILE COMMUNITY
this utterly disgusts me
 
Robin,

I have not asked Chris as it is none of my business but perhaps he paid for it outright and never asked that it be hosted for free. It is also possible that Rich has contributed to the Hammacks in others ways. In fact he has. He without question (as far as I know) let the Fuana Fund turn into the Hammock Fund. I believe just by hosting the site where so many auctions took place to help Kelli and her family he has done a great job in helping out the Hammocks.

I don't understand why so many people have been so negative and so confrontational over the last week. I know Kelli is your best friend Robin but perhaps you are directing your anger over this whole situation torwards the wrong person.

I respect the hell out of ya Robin. You know that and I don't mean any offence by what I said but I honestly don't see how Rich is the enemy in all this.
 
I didn't know Chris was banned, and I didn't realize it was his banner.

Suggestions from everyone about how to solve this?
 
Robin, just so's you know, neither Chris nor Rich meant for the banner to disappear and they were actually for once in complete agreement on something (!!!!), that it get back in place as quick as possible :)
 
I noticed it was gone but hought that the auctions had maybe all ended, glad this is all being cleared up and sorry I have been out most of the day and when I was on I was not able to read all the post that had come up since last night.
 
robin s. said:
do you mean to tell me that durring this horrible tragedy, chris was HAVING to pay for that link to be up... and it was not donated in the hammacks time of need?

rich you have done and said allot of things that i did not agree with and allot that i have however this to me is totally ubeilievable and a complete lack of respect for people whom has given so much to the ENTIRE REPTILE COMMUNITY
this utterly disgusts me
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Sure Robin, whatever you say. When you guys were planning that auction, did anyone consult with me to ask my input? Ask about setting up the auction in a location that would be guaranteed to get it a LOT of exposure? What my thoughts were on the best possible course of action to get the MOST exposure for the auction in the quickest amount of time? I mean did any ONE of you contact me during this planning stage at all about ANYTHING? For absolutely ANY aspect of it at all? Hmmm? Why not, I wonder? This site was too small or inappropriate to hold the auctions but not too small nor inappropriate to utilize links from it? I don't have enough experience in such matters?

The first I heard about the idea of doing auctions for this purpose was from Wendy and Lucille, but it had nothing at all to do with what you guys were planning, so I can only suppose you chose not to include them in the consultation either. Curious, isn't it?

When Lucille asked to change the Fauna Fund to the Hammack Fund, I agreed instantly. Bang! It was done. But for some reason it was decided to keep me, and MOST CERTAINLY Lucille, completely out of the loop in your own plans, now wasn't it? Now tell me truthfully Robin, why WAS that?

And now you want to attack me because of your own decisions? Give me a break........

Disgusting? Yeah, when you get right down to it and start considering motives, you're damned right it is.
 
What is disgusting is how you, Rich, and Wendy and Lucille could take a beautiful act motivated purely by empathy and generosity, and drag it down into the mud. The way I see it, you misinterpret others' motivations, attributing them to self-serving interests, because that is where evidently your motives emanate.
 
*Sighs* and *sighs* some more.

Isn't it a shame that politics had to enter into this thing too? I guess there is a fair question to be asked as to why it seemed necessary to hold "competing" auctions for the same benefit. Of course there will be many versions of the answer to that question. None of them are likely to be the unvarnished truth however.
 
what some people don't realize is that this isn't all about fauna. fauna isn't some great little haven in a world full of reptile sites anymore. its full of all kinds of crap nowa days. this was for kelli, why would we need to consult someone about where the auction would be held as long as it got the job done. Also i think one auction would be enough. If people were around any herp sites they would see the banner and come to help. I think rich is trying to turn this into a big power struggle for fauna but its not. fauna may drift out of many people's "favorite" herp sites but it won't be the end of the world just because some people realized how ridiculous this is getting.
 
Isn't it a shame that poisonous thoughts had to enter into it. I was there the night we (the leo community) heard about Kelli's son. I know how the idea for the auction started. I know what went on. And when the larger reptile community started hearing about Kelli, and responding, and another auction started up, Chris's (sincere) response was, good, two auctions better than one.... for the Hammacks. Whereas, Rich (and sycophants') reaction was, HEY dont compete with MY auction.
 
Kelli, this is the poison we were trying to shield you from.
 
leaftail said:
Isn't it a shame that poisonous thoughts had to enter into it. I was there the night we (the leo community) heard about Kelli's son. I know how the idea for the auction started. I know what went on. And when the larger reptile community started hearing about Kelli, and responding, and another auction started up, Chris's (sincere) response was, good, two auctions better than one.... for the Hammacks. Whereas, Rich (and sycophants') reaction was, HEY dont compete with MY auction.
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exactly. as if they think people will really care about signing up on another forum to help kelli. think again. most of us here would have gone thru a whole day of screening to help kelli.

i was also there the night this started and saw how it went. everything was perfect until someone chose to turn this into a power struggle whoever that may be...
 
Laura-

It's ok sweetie. I am sorta smart and was already figuring it out. It was just that I was in shock and disbelief that someone or someones would worry more about their website stats and traffic, and competition among websites than they would about the loss of Hayden and trying to help. The reason it took me so long to figure it out is that I don't understand people like that. Selfishness and self serving behaviour is just not something I will ever understand.

Thanks again to everybody, more thanks to come very soon. Right now I am trying to get caught up on my gecko work. Now I understand a lot better how when I would bug the crap out of Hayden to clean his room he would tell me he had a very hard time getting started. It's really overwhelming.

I am very, very sorry to those that have had to read through all this crap. Be back soon-
Kelli
 
i'm sorry this had to happen at this time kelli. some people would have taken chance of whatever opportunity they got and they did. websites don't matter to those of us who really care for you. we miss you greatly and are looking very much forward to your return.
 
Obviously everyone is going to form their own opinions. That's just par for the course. I can only state the facts as I see them and the opinions I have formed from those facts from my perspective, which other people will do as well from their own perspective. Everyone else will interpret them as they see fit and act accordingly.

I stand behind my private communications with Chris Johnson. That he obviously chose to make this a public issue is unfortunate for Kelli to have to witness, but I have no control over those past actions. He obviously has his reasons for what he did. If there is any error I can see on my part, it is that I did not anticipate his reaction when I really should have, knowing his past responses to criticism in any form. My likely illogical hopes had been that he would assess what I was saying to him and we could have a reasonable and rational private discussion about it. It did not go as I had hoped, obviously.

This is all unfortunate, but it is here, nonetheless.

As for the claim about competition, please, don't be silly. Please find ANYONE at all who I have refused to run banner ads for or allow them to put links in their signature area to their website. Even just ONE, please. Even sites that are running message boards much like this. Certainly if competition were high on my score card, I certainly would not be helping them by allowing them to advertise here, now would I? Chris himself ran banner ads and text line ads specifically inviting people to visit his own forums, and I did not think a thing about it. But perhaps THOSE facts are irrelevant to some people's opinions.

So anyway, I am sure this is going to continue as a dull roar for a rather long time, so all we can do is take each day one at a time. I am sure the raw emotions are going to be hard to keep under control, but let's at least try, please.
 
Chris didnt' make this public, Rich, YOU DID. On this thread. Chris did his utmost to keep it from going public, during this time when all our thoughts are on our grief and concern for Kelli and her family. He deliberately avoided defending his honor to spare them your poison. He's my hero this week and for a long time to come.
 
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