Some questions about the Limburg amels and anerys...

Some questions about the Limburg amels and anerys...

I cannot seem to get straight locality information on these animals to save my life. Since Limburg is not actually a place, but a person, I think it is very easy to get confused and over look the actual locality. I have heard Temecula, Winchester, and Hemet all cited as the locality for these Boas. It cannot be all of them now can it? It is my understanding that the original Coastal Amel was discovered in Near Vail Lake. Ok, if that is the case, then was it just bred to animals from the surrounding areas like Hemet and Temecula? It is my understanding that it has. If this is true then how can it be called a local pure animal (especially when we are splitting hairs over in Whitewater with Morongo and Verbenia)? Vail lake is 15 miles from Hemet, and 10 miles from Temecula, and Temecula is 20 miles from Hemet, and that is all supposed to be one local? Yet the Verbenia exit is 1 mile from the Whitewater exit, and they boarder each other with no natural or artificial barrier, and the same is true with Morongo, which sits right at Whitewater's northern edge. So how is it that the coastal albinos are considered local if their local seems to keep changing? It seems to me that they are a taxonomically pure coastal amel Rosy Boa, but not local.

Now can anyone actually tell me where the original Limburg anery was found? I have been told Temecula, but according to ads that I am seeing it is from Hemet, but then the ad says that the Limburg amels are from Hemet as well. Isn't that just a little too convenient? Why can't we ever get a straight answer about the localities on these animals? Something has to give. It seems to me that the facts seem to keep changing in order to please popular opinion. In addition, how are the double hets from these animals supposed to be pure local if it keeps changing? And how are they any more local pure than the Snows that were created by breeding the Morongo anery into the Whitewater amel when Whitewater and Morongo are connected and have no natural barriers? I have seen posters chastise the breeders of the Morongo/Whitewater Snows, while bowing down to others that seem to give locality information that is vague at best and that also seems to change whenever it is convenient. It makes no sense to me at all. What is even funnier is that people are concerned about local and are willing to streach the truth about local in regard to a designer snake in which the goal is to remove all color and pattern in the first place. What exactly is the point with that?

Well it makes sense to me....okay, I am new to the rosy boas as you are well aware. So my research into the is really small. You seem to be on the right track though.

I have heard all the arguments over the Suriname Boa Constrictors and the Guyana Boa Constrictors. According to some the two snakes are completely different locals, according to others the two snakes are the same local divided by political boarders. Being as in South America Guyana and Suriname are to countries that boarder each other, from local breeders down there the reason there is now two different subspecies here is because Suriname does not allow export of the snakes and Guyana does. So Suriname breeders drive across the boarder to ship their snakes out, which is where the Guyana boas came from.

I have 2 pairs of Suriname that are adults, one pair WCs the other pair CBB. The WC female looks like my CBB male except she has a lavender body and my CBB male has a tan body with light pink shading. My WC male looks like the WC female except he is all grey with no pink/lavender color at all. Some think he is a Guyana (but he came from Suriname) My CBB female only has two traits that are similar to the other three snakes. She has light pink shading and widow peak saddles. Her saddles are not connected like the other three are.

As you stated it is a matter of pleasing the masses. I have heard there is taxonomy issues over the Green Tree Pythons, one thing for sure the taxonomy changes in reptile just as much as in the dinosaurs. Science is not a fact, it is an assumption.

To place a name on a snake gives it more reputation and raises the price. I can buy a snake from Peter Kahl and from Joe Schmoe, each with the same amount of quality and each with the colors and marking I am looking for. The difference will be the price I am going to end up paying. I have snakes similar to Peter Kahl in markings, yet I would never be able to sell them for the price that he does.

I have het albino from the PK Stripe Line, but I have no idea if they will produce albino stripes or not. Did I pay too much, probably so. What I do know is if I take my Stripe Jungle (from the Amazon Basin) and breed him in with the albinos I am going to be getting striped albinos. Not being a big name in the business you probably will not be hearing about the Shelton Jungle Stripe Line Albino Boas any time in the near future.

Of course you know all this, though it is fun to rant sometimes. Hey did I tell you I just picked up a pair of Wilson Rosy Boas at the NARBC Show?

uhhh... i dont know, good question tho! i like where i live tho, im next to morongo and joshua tree!!! but i havent found any wild rosys yet tho.... when i do tho im gonna be the happiest person alive!!! im in love with them...


and seeings that you are the snow rosy guy, how much do they run at? cause my mommy loves snow snakes and we both are addicted to rosy's its like a perfect match!

please email me some info at [email protected]

thanks