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Complaint about the FULL NAME rule on the BOI.

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This has been extracted from a thread on the BOI in order to keep from dragging that thread off topic.

amayon said:
yes well i would LIKE to be able to post as Red elsewhere and simply SIGN my name manually here, but apparently thats just not good enough and the mod put my legal name in my profile and then disabled my ability to edit personal information of any kind. gee THANKS. im deleting this account. this is absolute bullshit. i dont care what the damn rules are ill manually sign my goddamn name if i have to but i dont want it anywhere else. do ANY of you mods have ANY idea how much dirt someone can find when they have your first name? do YOU want someone disagreeing with you and then snooping and posting things like your home address, phone number, SS#, docs name, and personal or childhood history, ALL OVER THE DAMN NET? i have tried to reason with whateverthehellhisnameis but no. its got to be plastered all fucking over every post i make. THAT is not cool. i have already had one disgrunted tard post every detail about me on the net, i dont need it happening HERE. apparently im the only one concerned about creeps and assholes
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Sorry to have to make this comment here, but I think this needs to be addressed.

When Amanda posted on the BOI without using her real full name, she was assessed a warning (maybe two) for this infraction. My comment to her was this:

WebSlave said:
Please provide me with your real full name so I can put that within the FULL NAME field in your profile. Otherwise any posts you have made and will make on the BOI will simply be deleted. This is NOT optional for posting there.
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Pretty self explanatory, eh?

She replied to my PM with some complaint instead:

amayon said:
yessir, sorry i forgot again dr owens also gave me the 3rd degree (do you have any way to coordinate moderators so multiple admin do not get on someone for the same thing?)
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Giving her the benefit of the doubt in just missing the point, I sent the following replied PM to her:
WebSlave said:
You still have not provided your full name to me. Unless you do so, your posts will be deleted, and SOON.
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To which she FINALLY replied with:
amayon said:
oooooookkkk? sorry to have offended you. geeze

amanda gribben
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She can get angry all she wants. The full name rule is set in stone. Anyone not wishing to comply with this rule just does not have to post here. I believe I actually ran a poll a couple of years ago about this particular requirement, and overwhelmingly members voted to keep it.
 
Well, she sounds like she has too many skeletons in her closet to be that paranoid about providing her name on her posts. Oh well... too bad we won't be reading any of them because they will be deleted. Amanda who?
 
I too...

Had a bad experience with someone on the net. So I can see Amanda's concern. He traveled 3000 miles to come see me. Luckily this guy was just misguided and not a serial killer. Flattering, sure, but just as spooky as finding someone riffling through your undies at the laundromat.

I went by a pseudonym for a year or two after that, even here. Then I came to the conclusion that I could continue to be a victim of this guy or I could just buck-up and get on with life. I mean, if someone really wants to take the time to find all about you they can do it quite easily. I just prefer not to live my life in fear.

Taking a few firearms classes help too! :dgrin:
 
You know, I guess someone CAN accuse me of "do as I say, and not as I do" here. :rolleyes: But it's not like my real name is any secret. But I guess the best thing for me to do is to put MY real name in my profile like everyone else.

But even so, anyone at all could find my real name and address very simply. And if anyone would have cause to be concerned about disgruntled ex members knocking on my door some night, I think I would qualify there. And no, I don't lose any sleep over it at all. Of course, at shows, I do try to keep the 12 gauge concealed under the tables..... :reddevil:
 
WebSlave said:
Of course, at shows, I do try to keep the 12 gauge concealed under the tables..... :reddevil:
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Goodness, I am thankful that I only got a water bottle pointed at me then!! Uh oh...now everyone knows what you look like.

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Well.......maybe I'm one of the "lucky ones".....but do you know how many "Petersons" there are in Iowa alone??? ;)

I guess if you have any kind of business, your name is going to be out there anyway. How many people on here have stated that they wouldn't purchase from someone without knowing who they are?
 
Was her actual complaint addressed? I did not read her original post, but based on the Quote Rich posted I'd say her actual complaint sounds valid:

"the mod put my legal name in my profile and then disabled my ability to edit personal information of any kind"

She incorporated some personal ranting in her complaint~ but if anyone here has NEVER done that then please "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". If you actually read WHY she is complaining her complaint sounds valid.

My understanding is the full name rule is only in effect on the BOI itself. Why was her full name put in her profile FOR her without her permission? Why was she not *politely* warned by ONE moderator that she needed to remember to sign her full name to posts in the BOI and SUGGESTED that putting it in her profile would save her future warnings? Is she not a paying customer on this site (she would have to be to post on the BOI right?). This site is a business now with paid memberships~ doesn't she deserve at least the courtesy of semi-civilized customer service with a polite warning and the choice if she WANTS her full name on EVERY post she makes on the ENTIRE site?
 
Another couple thoughts~

Was she notified that this thread was created with her as subject, with the source of the original conflict (her full name) posted within?

Why was her full name posted into this thread after she had made it clear she did not want her full name posted on this site anywhere it was not required?
 
Cheryl Marchek AKA JM said:
Another couple thoughts~

Was she notified that this thread was created with her as subject, with the source of the original conflict (her full name) posted within?

Why was her full name posted into this thread after she had made it clear she did not want her full name posted on this site anywhere it was not required?
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Good point and how many follks on here actually aren't who they say they are????
 
Another couple thoughts~

Was she notified that this thread was created with her as subject, with the source of the original conflict (her full name) posted within?

Why was her full name posted into this thread after she had made it clear she did not want her full name posted on this site anywhere it was not required?Cheryl,
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She had no valid complaint. She had many members tell her nicely that she had to put her full name on her posts only in the BOI. She complained about it, then went on to post on different threads within the BOI. She did type her name once or twice then refused. She received warning points and more reminders from members. Simply, she was made fully aware that she couldn't sign her posts "RED" in the BOI and when she continued, her name was added to her user profile.

She received several warnings and basically told everyone to take a flying leap.

She was fined and suspended so notifying her wouldn't help.
 
Cheryl Marchek AKA JM said:
Was her actual complaint addressed? I did not read her original post, but based on the Quote Rich posted I'd say her actual complaint sounds valid:

"the mod put my legal name in my profile and then disabled my ability to edit personal information of any kind"

She incorporated some personal ranting in her complaint~ but if anyone here has NEVER done that then please "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". If you actually read WHY she is complaining her complaint sounds valid.

My understanding is the full name rule is only in effect on the BOI itself. Why was her full name put in her profile FOR her without her permission? Why was she not *politely* warned by ONE moderator that she needed to remember to sign her full name to posts in the BOI and SUGGESTED that putting it in her profile would save her future warnings? Is she not a paying customer on this site (she would have to be to post on the BOI right?). This site is a business now with paid memberships~ doesn't she deserve at least the courtesy of semi-civilized customer service with a polite warning and the choice if she WANTS her full name on EVERY post she makes on the ENTIRE site?
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Cheryl, did you happen to READ the original post in this thread? Did you happen to take note of the private messages that passed between myself and her? Specifically the one where I requested that she send me her full name so I could put it into her profile?SHE provided her real name to me voluntarily with the knowledge it was going to be placed within her profile. Sorry that little detail escaped your notice.
 
WebSlave said:
Cheryl, did you happen to READ the original post in this thread?
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Cheryl Marchek AKA JM said:
I did not read her original post, but based on the Quote Rich posted I'd say her actual complaint sounds valid
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Uuummmm…..No. I didn’t read the original post this thread was based on. Am I misunderstanding your question? Do you mean did I read the first post in THIS thread? Yes. That’s how I knew the content of it.

I did take note of the PRIVATE messages between Webslave and the woman in question. Specifically~ I did read where the Administrator of this site was provided with PRIVATE information that he then posted in another thread with the full understanding that the woman did NOT want said PRIVATE information posted just anywhere on the site, and in fact~ said private information was posted UNDER the same post in which the Administrator quotes her as stating “ill manually sign my goddamn name if i have to but i dont want it anywhere else.”

Based on the information provided in the first post of THIS thread I am not sure I would have understood from the PMs you sent her that you intended to tag her full name to EVERY post she makes on this site and not simply to her posts in the BOI.

Now as for the rest of my questions about why she was treated so harshly. According to Dennis she was warned and continued to post inappropriately despite those warnings. Okay, that explains she was not politely warned the first time. Thanks.
 
Rules are rules. She was told of the rule, she ignored the rule, she was warned, she knew it was going to be in her profile, she supplied name. If your name is in your profile it will show everywhere, but that is what was needed for her refusal to follow the rules. If someone is that paranoid that they dont want anyone to know who they are, then maybe the internet isnt the place to be. Most the people that dont want their identities to be known in the past have been scammers. I dont see why there is such a problem with the rules, we have been living with rules all our lives. So why is it so hard to accept?
 
Cheryl Marchek AKA JM said:
Now as for the rest of my questions about why she was treated so harshly. According to Dennis she was warned and continued to post inappropriately despite those warnings. Okay, that explains she was not politely warned the first time. Thanks.
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I am assuming the "not" was a typo.

Four or five members politely informed her. Dr. Owens warned her, then Rich.

thanks. i know WHY it has to be on the BOI but i really hate it.
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She posted this statement then continued to not put her name on her posts.

Also, that complaint was made on a BOI thread where a gentleman is trying to collect a decent dollar amount that is owed him from a Bad Guy (IMO), it was in bad taste. She was having a private discussion with the moderators about the issue and she should have kept it private. When she made that post, I think she lost the ability to have her "invalid" complaint heard.

Matter of Fact,
She did nothing but grip about everything since she joined. From the size of her avatar, to telling other new members and new reptile owners not to ask stupid questions and to use the search functions. Apparently, she could not abide by her own advice.
 
Her quotes to a new member.
its called the search function. you dont have to "sift" for anythign

asking the same question that someone asked a week ago, and 2 weeks before that, and 50 million times in the year before that, is IRRITATING
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I could say the same about those who don’t bother to read the highlighted thread at the top of the BOI, Rules for posting on the BOI. She had no reason to continue to post on the BOI and could have went on her merry way in the forums. As she was told she could use “RED” there, but decided to make an ass of herself by posting that long-winded complaint in someone’s thread.

enthusiasm would be reading 50 pages back because you cant get enough of what people talk about re balls. NOT asking 50 different feeding questions on 50 different topics just to get your post count up
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Even though, many people took the time to help with her animals not eating in the thread she started, everyone else is suppose to use the search function.
 
I see you are correct Dennis. It doesn’t change that I think it was wrong and unfair to post her full name in this thread, or to put her full name in her profile to be displayed on every thread she ever participated in with the full knowledge that she did not want it posted

I don’t see what purpose posting her name in this thread served……except to demonstrate that all posters are treated with the same disdain and contempt no matter their status as a new member, long time member, first time offender or repeat offender. I’m not pretending I don’t have a personal agenda in asking the question either. I want to know why Rich suddenly decides some poster or another needs to have their chain yanked extra hard for an indiscretion and then proceeds to treat them to the contempt and disdain I had previously assumed was reserved only for the real trouble makers?

This thread is not about “everyone else” though. It’s about this poster, and I’ve asked a legitimate question. Why was her name posted in this thread by an administrator of this site with the full understanding that the poster did not desire to have that name plastered all over this site? Would her user name not have sufficed to make it clear who she was on the site?
 
Cheryl Marchek AKA JM said:
I’m not pretending I don’t have a personal agenda in asking the question either.
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Gee? Really? Who would have guessed? :rofl:
 
Cheryl Marchek AKA JM said:
I don’t see what purpose posting her name in this thread served……except to demonstrate that all posters are treated with the same disdain and contempt no matter their status as a new member, long time member, first time offender or repeat offender. I’m not pretending I don’t have a personal agenda in asking the question either. I want to know why Rich suddenly decides some poster or another needs to have their chain yanked extra hard for an indiscretion and then proceeds to treat them to the contempt and disdain I had previously assumed was reserved only for the real trouble makers?
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1. Rules were broken and enforced.

2. Are you complaining because the rules are being enforced for everyone?

3. Like you said above you are bringing this up because of a personal agenda that was discussed in another thread.

4. She had the opportunity to withhold her name and just have her posts deleted, she voluntarily gave her name and was told it was going in her profile.

Why can't people follow rules? It is an easy concept. If you didn't know the rule then you say "Sorry, I didn't know that and it will not happen again." Why would you continue to break the rule and then complain about the outcome? She was told several times.
 
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