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What kind of rainbow is this???

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Can anyone tell me what type of rainbow boa this is? Also the value. It is a girl, 6 ft long and tame as a kitten. Also, she is lighter that the pictures show.
Thanks!!!
 
Don't they have dark freckles? This one has light colored ones.
 
Yeah, most of the ones I have, or have seen. Some of mine have light and dark (salt and pepper look). Here is a pic of one with a darker background color, but it does have light freckels. This photo is from Dave and Tracy Barkers site. Is that legal to post, if I give them credit? Someone let me know and if it is unethical, I'll remove it and just post a link. I'm not using it to sell something, or use on my site, just for ID purposes, so I thought that should be okay. The second one is one of my youngsters. Your's is definitely lighter, especially the primary color. The irredescence, "freckles", and head are what make me think that's what it is.
 

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Well I went to their website, and they said the one in their picture is a:

from Dave and Tracy Barkers site: Freckled python from the island of Timor,
General Description: This is a big strong round-bodied snake. The head is wider than the neck, the snout is broad and strong. The head is typically paler than the body. The eyes are pale, often pale gray or silver. The bodies of olive-brown individuals are freckled with scattered black scales, while the bodies of the dark-brown or blackish-brown individuals is speckled with scattered pale scales.
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But mine is light colored with light scales.
Thanks for the help!!
 
It says the head is lighter, mine is darker. It says on darker snakes the speckles are light, thats the opposite of mine.
 
I agree, if it is a freckled, it's the lightest one I have seen. That's my best guess though. I don't know much about the whole Liasis complex, but looking at a bunch of googled photos, it almost looks like it could be an olive python (except for the freckles), or maybe another ssp., I wonder if there are any "hybrids"? Well, hopefully tomorrow the non owl people :rofl: might know better than me, and let us know that I'm way off base or something.
 
Well, thanks for the help!!! I don't have a very good background to check on her. I will say this, she is a real tame snake. And has the rainbow iridescence.
 
Freckleds are really iridescent, the beauty of a freckled doesn't show up till you put it in natural sunlight, then they are IMO a beauty to behold. I have seen almost "patternless" Columbian Rainbows, but they usually have at least a faint background of the typical pattern, and are no where near as light as that snake you have, the ones I've seen anyway. Does it have labial heat pits? Anyway those pics of yours have me really stumped and intrigued. I hope tomorrow someone doesn't point out that it is some kind of standard, common snake that I'm completly missing :dunce: .
 
It's definately not a rainbow boa, the labial pits rule that out.
Freckled was the first thing I thought when I saw the pics too and the labial pits support that ID. Pits on Liasis are exactly like that. Some details of the head scalation however are not exactly like the I remember on freckleds, I'd have to look into that a little more when I get home in the morning.
He seems to have an extra pre ocular scale and the small scale in the supra labials doesn't fit my recollection. I'll look through some of my literature in a couple of hours and see what I find.
 
I almost responded without reading the rest of the posts, lol, but it wouldn't have mattered. My comment was that, although it is a bit lighter colored than the norm, it looks like a freckled python to me. The Liasis complex shows some amazing irridescence, and will compete with the best of Epicrates in that category. It looks like it is in shed, but it could be reflection of the flash.
 
Well, I'm no help figuring out what she is....but she sure is a beautiful snake!! :)
 
hhmoore said:
. The Liasis complex shows some amazing irridescence, and will compete with the best of Epicrates in that category.
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I agree. I like to show people my "boring", dull looking greyish/olivish?, snake, and then take it out in the sun, and show them. They look like a rainbow that has been spit shined. If that is a Freckled (Macklott's) I would have to say it is one of the prettiest ones I have ever seen.
 
Hey, Bobby,
Why don't you move/copy this thread into the Pythons Discussion forum & see if anybody there has any input. (you might want to change the title, though)
 
I didn't have much time today, but I tried to locate the head scalation info I mentioned and failed. I did find the details of a few of the other Liasis species and the pre ocular scales are variable, but the labial pit number and location are a constant in the genus.
I'm going to stick with the freckled ID. It's practically certain that's what it is.
 
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