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Some of my tree huggers

BoaMan Jon

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First up is a 4 y-o female that was once Halloween phase from PrimaReptilia
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Her, in her new cage.
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This is my 3.5-4 y-o male from Ben Siegel that I got in 2004
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Last up is my lil female that I got in Daytona 2005 at the National Breeders' Expo. She's about 9-10 months old.
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And Rosie was feeling left out, so I'll post a couple of her even though she's not a treeboa
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Those are beautiful Jon. I especially like the second one. How did you burn the pvc to get that effect? That's pretty cool.
 
Thank you. That male is my favorite too, he's got a really neat personality and is pretty docile for an ATB.

I use one of those cheap propane torches to burn the PVC. To create twists and texture I heat up one section of the PVC that I'm going to twist and I use channel-locks to hold and twist the pipe. In order to move on to the next twist you must cool down the PVC with water so that it will get its strength back so you can twist in another spot. In a sence, it's almost like working with metal, as you have to heat and cool to get the PVC to do what you want it to do.
 
the yellow/orange male and female are gorgeous...VERY nice!!

Interested in knowing just how much you can handle your ATBs..have you found them to be the little devils that people make them out to be?
 
Thank you. I try to handle them once a week but it's been less recently. When they're little I find that they're pretty nippy and agressive, but around 2 years of age I find that they become more confident and don't seem to have to bite anything that moves or touches them. I free handle my male all the time, rarely resorting to a hook, but I usually use a hook with the small female. She is very intimidated by me and likes to "release" herself. It's pretty gross. The older garden female is new and has been pretty much hands off since she got here a couple weeks ago. I have free handled her a couple of times with no aggression.
 
Thanks for your response Jon..another Q..Do find there's a big difference in their tendency to strike whether they're in their cage and out?

I'm led to believe that once you remove them from their cages, they quite often become less aggressive..have you found this to be the case?
 
Skunky said:
Thanks for your response Jon..another Q..Do find there's a big difference in their tendency to strike whether they're in their cage and out?

I'm led to believe that once you remove them from their cages, they quite often become less aggressive..have you found this to be the case?

Yes and no. My older treeboas, yes they calm very much outside of the cage as long as there isn't a lot of action goin on. They will protect themselves in the cage, but more specifically at night. During the day I will flip their hides and just grab them without hesitation, even my lil one is handlable this way if I supprise her during the day, but perched at night is another story for all of them.

The young treeboa is pissed off all the time, but can settle with calm, motionless handling, usually not until after she's resorted to biting and deficating on me does this occur.

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No aggression??? Dang it, Jon... you aren't slipping her tranquilizers or anything are you?

LMAO, no snake drugging here. She's been pretty mellow as treeboas go, but I haven't had all that much time handling her. I'm really doing my best to keep the stress low and the husbandry perfect so that everything goes right... especially if I want to breed her soon.
 
Nice ATB's! Nice to hear you've got some good dispositions on yours. It's hard to overcome their reputation for being so snappy!!
 
luvchondros said:
Nice ATB's! Nice to hear you've got some good dispositions on yours. It's hard to overcome their reputation for being so snappy!!

Which is why we will never ever ever let this one go:

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He's my Sweety. hehe
 
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Now I could have held this girl for a picture as well.
But posting a photo of me with a snake attached to my face just didn't sound like fun. She'll run from a live mouse yet bite me just because and her sister is the same way.

Nice looking abbys you have there.Randy
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Jon and Michelle..I'm interested in knowing if these ATBs of yours started off as docile guys, or "grew" into it?
 
Well, I'd say that he came with a resonable disposition when I got him. He was named HeHateME for a while, but now he really doesn't, so I need to name him something new. He didn't bite all that often from the begining, but he's had his moments. He actually bit me the other day; first time in about a year, but in all I could count the nuber of bites I've taken from him on my hands. The bites don't bother me; it comes with the territory and honestly the teeth are so sharp that you hardly feel them, unless it's your finger tips. Most often I don't get a strike & bite with any of them, often just a slow intentional bite and release. The little girl does this the most. She will bite one of the fingers I'm holding her with.

I believe that over time you learn what each snake likes and doesn't like and you learn to be more tree-like in your approach to handling arboreal snakes. That may be why Tisiphone hasn't bit me yet, Michelle. I'm the snake whisperer... or the snakes do tame over time and handling. I have put plenty of time into that too. I'm willing to bet that it's a combination of the two, or at least I hope. Last thing I need is a 6' boa deficating and voiding on me.
 
Beech had been handled quite often from the day he was born. He was only *slightly* nippy when I got him, but with continued handling he calmed right down. I trust him more than many of our bci!

We have an orange patternless male that used to be super bitey, but lately he seems to have calmed down and he hasn't been handled much at all, so *shrug*
 
Jon..are your ATBs all CB or WC? I know you said you'd picked one up from Ben Siegel..I called there a while ago and all they had were WCs.
 
I'm certain that my females are. I was told by some guy at Ben's shop (I used to live in Deerfield, great shop, beats shopping online) that he was, but I'll never know. The evidence is good that my male is CB because 2 fecals after I got him were clean, so unless the shop worms them all when they come in, he was too clean to be WC.
 
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