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Willow
12-23-2011, 12:35 PM
hmmm...kinda funny I've never posted in this section before....just noticed it today....I should explore my hometown more often apparently :D


Anyway...current supplies awaiting the end of the world lol...it's all just practice until then anyway right? hehe

Guns...of course....6 of em (gotta love AZ)
Walter P.22
XDM 9mm
Taurus 9mm
Ruger 10/22
AR 15
Saiga 12 shotgun (30 round drum, this thing is fun hehe)
good amount of clips and ammo always on hand for each...I lose count lol

My husband got some brand new backpacking gear this past summer.
Tons of two person equipment, his pack can range from 35lbs to 50lbs depending on how much he decides to carry. Even at 35lbs it holds our tent, sleeping rolls and bags, pre packed kits (first aid, water safety, toiletries) a jet burner, ropes, built in camel back, MREs, and tons of other random little things I'm not even aware of because my husband is awesome lol. It's like Christmas every time I open that backpack lol.

I always wanted to purchase a pre-built bug out bag, but so far the one my husband has put together has covered all the things I would want a bug out bag to cover. And considering my husbands pack is form fitted to his body and travels on him perfectly, I can't knock it lol.

my own pack is a big camel back lol...and of course whatever essentials need to be shoved into the remaining spaces in a hurry (most likely ammo or more MRE's lol)

My apartment is packed with food and water. I have a love for MRE's. People look at me funny when they see 60 gallons (almost 500lbs) of water stored in my dining room :thumbsup:
Now I know I'm only mildly crazy compared to some...soooooooo
Anyone else got some stuff stashed away for a rainy day? :D

Dennis Hultman
12-23-2011, 02:53 PM
hmmm...kinda funny I've never posted in this section before....just noticed it today....I should explore my hometown more often apparently :D


Anyway...current supplies awaiting the end of the world lol...it's all just practice until then anyway right? hehe

Guns...of course....6 of em (gotta love AZ)
Walter P.22
XDM 9mm
Taurus 9mm
Ruger 10/22
AR 15
Saiga 12 shotgun (30 round drum, this thing is fun hehe)
good amount of clips and ammo always on hand for each...I lose count lol

My husband got some brand new backpacking gear this past summer.
Tons of two person equipment, his pack can range from 35lbs to 50lbs depending on how much he decides to carry. Even at 35lbs it holds our tent, sleeping rolls and bags, pre packed kits (first aid, water safety, toiletries) a jet burner, ropes, built in camel back, MREs, and tons of other random little things I'm not even aware of because my husband is awesome lol. It's like Christmas every time I open that backpack lol.

I always wanted to purchase a pre-built bug out bag, but so far the one my husband has put together has covered all the things I would want a bug out bag to cover. And considering my husbands pack is form fitted to his body and travels on him perfectly, I can't knock it lol.

my own pack is a big camel back lol...and of course whatever essentials need to be shoved into the remaining spaces in a hurry (most likely ammo or more MRE's lol)

My apartment is packed with food and water. I have a love for MRE's. People look at me funny when they see 60 gallons (almost 500lbs) of water stored in my dining room :thumbsup:
Now I know I'm only mildly crazy compared to some...soooooooo
Anyone else got some stuff stashed away for a rainy day? :D

LOL, you just made a post with four or so warning signs from homeland security that you could be a domestic terrorist. :)

Willow
12-23-2011, 03:10 PM
LOL, you just made a post with four or so warning signs from homeland security that you could be a domestic terrorist. :)

I'm not rebellious enough lol...or brainwashed enough lol

Shadera
12-23-2011, 03:48 PM
I'm not rebellious enough lol...or brainwashed enough lol

They're not after the real dangerous people. (those always manage to slip past the bogus "security" measures.) Just those smart enough to think for themselves.

I think your list is great. There's nothing wrong with putting a little back for a rainy day. I myself love MREs too. They aren't the cornerstone of my prep food, but I keep a few around.

~Just Curious~
12-24-2011, 03:44 AM
LOL You are set! :thumbsup: And just for that you're on a government watchlist now. :rofl:

Us I know we have some guns here, there's retired police in the family, but that's not my thing personally so I can't even tell you the slightest bit about them. :rolleyes: I think self-defense wise, we have pepper sprays and stun guns in a couple desk drawers. Almost forgot they were they actually, probably have to replace the stuff it's been so long... We all carry those "kubotan" things on our keychains as well, but personally I think it just makes a nice key fob. ;)

This house we're living in currently comes with literally NO built-in, overhead lighting. The only lighting we get is from outlet lamps we added, so this only increased our previous obsession with flashlights. We buy them in bulk, every room has multiple miniature flashlights and they're also on shelves throughout the house. My bedroom alone has two on my nightstand, one on my TV by the door, and one on my dresser. My main lamp is on the other side of the room and there's no remote control, so I use them often. I've found that when I need a flashlight, I need it to be right there! LOL

Our pantry is always full and we're water fiends. :p We buy those 35 half-liter bottle value packs of arrowhead at Costco and have at least five packs stacked up at all times. That gets people's attention, bit of an eyesore in the dining room, but hey - you gotta have that water! :yesnod:

It's not really in case of a disaster or anything though, we just don't like to see supplies get low. It's like that with everything, we're total squirrels. Only we have no winter and the grocery store is literally two blocks away for us. XD

bigalosu
01-06-2012, 04:37 PM
Under the National Defense Authorization Act signed by Obama on New Year’s Eve they now have more than enough evidence to arrest and hold you for an indefinite amount of time.

http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-detention-ndaa-aclu-303/

E.Shell
01-06-2012, 06:27 PM
At some point, you just can't keep "hiding for your rights" and if normal behavior is conducted as if it were somehow unacceptable, it may eventually be. I guess I'm on seven out of ten of these new lists, and just don't care anymore. The way they create and qualify this ever growing list of these lists, you'd have to be dead not be on one, and even then you're probably on Dade County's registered voter list....Anyone else got some stuff stashed away for a rainy day? :DYes, definitely, crazy not to have at least a few days or a week set back, preferably more. Food, water, meds, toiletries, commo, fuel... Enough to see one through the next hurricane, tornado, paralyzing snowstorm, meteor or what have you. It is not uncommon to be out of power for up to a week during bad winter weather around here, and some folks stay out longer.

I used CamelBaks quite a lot for my Tactical Matches (http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/tactical-rifle-competition-1.php), and currently use a Talon for almost everything. Decent packs for hard use. I gave up on using the bladders though. They are much more trouble than they are worth, and if they're not freezing shut, they're leaking. IMHO, the only good thing about them is not having to stop to drink, but otherwise, I'd rather carry bottled water.

If the S really HTF, I just want my milling machine (http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=4197). :D

WebSlave
01-06-2012, 07:13 PM
It's easy enough to understand why the government is doing this sort of thing. They figure that the more likely the people will feel that they are breaking SOME law, then the less likely it is that the people will raise a stink about what the government is doing for fear of being prosecuted for one or more of those laws they are in violation of.

It's a simple matter of control via fear and intimidation. Just constantly raising that water temperature that us frogs are sitting in.

Willow
01-07-2012, 02:41 AM
The great thing about AZ is every weapon I own is perfectly legal lol...I am among a large number of AZ gun owners

if the government wants to keep an eye on me, so be it. I wouldn't be very interesting to them. I hope they like Skyrim and porn teehee =)

~Just Curious~
01-07-2012, 04:18 AM
LOL Guns aren't really my thing, so I'm not up to speed on the laws for them here personally... Interestingly enough though, I've had quite a few folks tell me that my little kubotan keychain is illegal to carry around. It's a plain, five inch stick I use as a key fob. No spikes, no blade, no point on the end, no zapping, no caustic sprays - Just a blunt plastic rod that's very convenient for holding keys.
Apparently it's classified as a prohibited club weapon though. :eek: A very itty-bitty club, but a club nonetheless. Whoopsies! :blush:

By the time I finally got around to looking into this, I noticed it said that airlines take this "weapon" very seriously and there was quite a few horror stories of folks getting held at security for having them. That's a nice warning to know for the future now - Only in the mean time I've ignorantly flown 23 or 24 times with that keychain post 9/11, even to Washington DC and New York City, and it was never mentioned upon by any of the hundreds of security security check points. :no01: Kinda worrying because everyone keeps saying how overly cautious the TSA is being. :ack2:

On the other hand though, they always confiscate my water bottle and sun block if I accidently leave those in. You can bet they're on top of that.

By the by - when I actually stop to think about it, the perfectly legal flashlights I carry around would make a much more effective club. As would almost any other object laying around honestly. I just don't get the logic of the law sometimes~

WebSlave
01-07-2012, 12:55 PM
I fully expect that in the future, you will have to strip out of all of your clothes, don something like a hospital scrub that you wear during your trip on the plane, and your clothes will be shipped separately so when you reach your destination, you can then change back into your clothes. With any luck, you won't have to shave your head as well. :rolleyes:

bigtiger
01-15-2012, 07:16 AM
MRE's...people always ask why do you have those.The next question is always 'what do they taste like?'
I always say the clam chowder is great.:D
I never answer have to answer the first question.

E.Shell
01-12-2013, 08:10 AM
... By the by - when I actually stop to think about it, the perfectly legal flashlights I carry around would make a much more effective club. As would almost any other object laying around honestly. I just don't get the logic of the law sometimes~This is just it; most of these laws have no positive effect, create impediments to and endanger law abiding citizens and are simply emotional 'feel good' legislation when the hand-wringers think "something must be done...".

JColt
01-12-2013, 09:02 AM
I have a box or so of c-rats! I actually liked the ham and eggs as long as it was heated. The crackers you need at least a canteen of water to swallow them, lol.

Metachrosis
01-12-2013, 09:49 AM
I prefer they know nothing and to date have never made a public reference to what
measures I have in place.

hhmoore
01-12-2013, 10:53 AM
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/ridiculous-dhs-list-you-might-be-domestic-ter
Ridiculous DHS list: You might be a domestic terrorist if...
An 18-year veteran in law enforcement warned to beware of Homeland Security training that is being pushed to local law enforcement. "You might be a Domestic Terrorist If" you believe in civil liberties, or if you actually believe in your Constitutional rights. Sadly, this is NOT a joke.
By Ms. Smith on Sun, 04/03/11 - 6:39pm.


We've all heard the "You might be a Redneck If" jokes, but in this series "You might be a Domestic Terrorist If" you believe in civil liberties, or if you actually believe in your Constitutional rights. Sadly, this is not a joke. You might also be a terrorist if you have ever expressed concerns of Big Brother. Are you a Christian who has ever discussed the anti-Christ, the apocalypse, or even mentioned the book of Revelation? Guess what, according to DHS then you too qualify as a potential domestic terrorist.

An 18-year veteran in law enforcement warned to beware of Homeland Security training that is being pushed to local law enforcement. James Wesley Rawles recently posted on AxXiom for Liberty some very disturbing trends in law enforcement training. He reports a shift in focus in the last 18 years from local community to a "federally dominated model of complete social control" coming out of, not surprisingly, Homeland Security. More specifically, the long-reaching DHS arms of TSA and FEMA have been pushed heavily in the last two years to local law enforcement.

Rawles notes that regardless to training session topics, the courses shift to domestic terrorist warnings in the community. That is not abnormal, but the wide scope of what our government describes as having the most potential to be domestic terrorists is highly alarming.

Rawles writes that the following are characteristics that qualifies a person as a potential domestic terrorist:

Expressions of libertarian philosophies (statements, bumper stickers)
Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership, holding a CCW permit)
Survivalist literature (fictional books such as "Patriots" and "One Second After" are mentioned by name)
Self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies)
Fear of economic collapse (buying gold and barter items)
Religious views concerning the book of Revelation (apocalypse, anti-Christ)
Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government
Homeschooling
Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties
Belief in a New World Order conspiracy
People engaged in the above activities or mind-set may be considered "extremists" or "militia groups" that exist in our communities and are "hiding in plain sight, ready to attack."

We've looked before at suspicious activity reports (SAR database) and fusion centers that keep info on supposedly "suspicious" people, keeping watchlists that can be accessed by local law enforcement and other government agencies. Domestic surveillance seems out of control and ACLU's Policy Counsel on National Security, Immigration and Privacy, Mike German, has said as much: "The most disturbing thing we've uncovered is the scope of domestic intelligence activities taking place today. Domestic spying is now being done by a host of federal agencies (FBI, DOD, DHS, DNI) as well as state and local law enforcement and even private companies. Too often this spying targets political activity and religious practices. We've documented intelligence activities targeting or obstructing First Amendment-protected activity in 33 states and DC."

I'm sure none of us want terrorists in our country. Although there may be domestic terrorists inside the USA, why don't we actually hear about these groups? Could it be that all the warnings of how there are such high risks for terrorism inside the U.S. might be because there are these utterly ridiculous lists of what qualifies as potential terrorists?

I strongly disagree that We the People of the USA, the land of free, are a wildly dangerous group. In fact, I don't think terrorists are lurking everywhere in America, waiting to attack. I believe, it is because we love America that we talk about and write about the worrisome facts of our great country becoming the land of surveillance and distrust, the place where neighbors are encouraged to report neighbors, and where local law enforcement is being told to be on the lookout for terrorists lurking all over their communities.

Metachrosis
01-12-2013, 02:15 PM
Its right in front of people,they scoff and deny with absurd speculation(s)