I like living in Floruba...better than redneckida

Im done with this thread...its been degraded...everyone vote...as long as everyone votes...its all good...

Awww... did someone get dare feewings hut?

Where is this Redneckida of which you speak? My half-black wife from Venezuala and I would love to go there sometime for a visit... maybe we could take some arapas and fried plantains and have a picnic.

Here's an interesting quote:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."
~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006!

Well, seriously, when your own government starts spending money like there is no tomorrow, doesn't it make you wonder just a little bit about what the heck is REALLY going on? Does everyone who gets to be in control of the purse strings of this country just go insane when they take office? Or do these people just know something about tomorrow that we don't?

Sorry, but I guess I just hope for logical answers to the obvious insanity that I see. The people in government can't possibly believe that the welfare of this country can be sustainable staying on the path we are on now. With the amount of money owed, and more debt being accumulated every year, what is it about the concept "bankrupt" that they just do not understand?

I dunno, maybe deep down in side, most people really do realize the deep doo-doo we are in, and would rather vote for someone who will give them pleasant sounding lies, instead of the brutally painful truth. Well, someone lying about the cliff they threw you over won't make the ground any softer feeling when you finally hit it.

I am stealing this for my FaceBook page. Thanks!

Shows how our Pres has shot himself in the foot...:shootfoot

Above, you mock the only candidate that want's us to remain having those rights, while below you use those rights to be able to mock him.


Hypocrite much?


I vote Ron Paul. Say what you want about him, but he is the only candidate that has run in just about the last century, that isn't for sale to the highest bidder. He is the only candidate that is even remotely interested in us keeping our freedom granted under the constitution and bill of rights. The banks know this, congress knows this, and the multitude of federal agencies created over the last 100 years know this. They are scared, and that is why they control the media, and the election process. To stop an honest person from getting back into power. A person that just might be able to make this country the power that it once was., and do it without another revolution.

I say anyone who votes for Obama again, has proved they are just as communist as he is, and we should take away their citizenship, and send them to communist China, so they can get a first hand taste of what our rights and freedoms actually afforded them.

We have some seriously stupid people in this Country.

How is he a communist? Do you even know what a communist is???? He has some socialistic views on things....this is true....out country does have some socialist policies....teachers.....police....firemen....mili tary....general infrastucture we all rely on....do you want to do without....I agree if you think we can do without these things you are stupid....

HA HA HA this from someone who's user name starts with DUM.

Lets take a look at the definitions, shall we...

Definition of SOCIALISM
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done


Definition of COMMUNISM
1
a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2
a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably


Some might say that there is a very fine line separating the two above. I would tend to agree, except that the Obama admin has proved beyond reasonable doubt that they want an absolute "single authoritarian party", which falls right in line with Communism. All you have to do is read the NDAA, SOPA, and other acts created in the last 4 years to see that. Well, if you're smart enough anyway.


Now lets take a look at Capitalism...

Definition of CAPITALISM
: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market


Is not the latter exactly what our constitution and bill of rights was intended to accomplish? So how do you figure we're socialist? I know with the welfare state we are in, it may SEEM to you like we are, but we are not. The simple fact that banks and big business are allowed to have influence on our government goes totally against what the definition of socialism is.

Try again little man. :thumbsup:

Here is a great read on Obama:

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue....asp?id=106938

Sorry, the above definitions come from Websters for the source. Should have included that in the post.

Richard, I generally agree with just about every post you make, including the ones in this thread. However, I do notice your avatar is basically contradicting your stance for pro-freedom, and pro-constitional rights. Do you know what the official language of the United States of America is?

Answer: there isn't one.
Now, how do I know this? My wife told me she learned this when she was studying for the test she had to take to become a citizen, which she took and passed, along with her RN boards around the same time. Afterall, why should English be elevated to a preferred position in this country? The statue of Liberty does not say "Bring me your huddled masses that speak English", now does it? Near as I can tell, we shrugged off that yolk with a very bloody war, one of the very few successful coups ever acheived, and I think that gives us a right to speak whatever language with which we are comfortable.
My wife is spanish, and when she tries to understand some fast-spoken recorded message in english on the phone, she is more likely to misunderstand than if it is in her native tongue. I, for one, am thankful for a country that is a true melting pot.

Yeah, American English. Just because people are granted the right to come here, provided they learn to read, write and speak English, BUT REFUSE to honor that promise, does not change what the official language is.

Richard....you are afraid of non white people...from your avatar...what is wrong with knowing anither language...this country was founded by people from different countries speaking different languages...2nd...there is no taking of anyones properties...I ask you...do you not want to have police...fireman...teachers...if you dont...you want to live in a society that has 1 person or a collection of people with lots of money that control their own personal armies they pay to protect whats theirs...our "capatilist society" relies on governament employes to serve and protect the private business man. I believe thats called a monarchy...so which do you prefer to live in? Vote for the only guy running for president that does not lie...Vote Ron Paul....and get us into an isolationist government...and see what happens to prices of many things we take for granted...see what happens when half the country becomes unemployed because he and you want to cut back government spending...he may not lie...he may tell the truth...but what he wants is as bad as what we have had over the last 42 years or maybe even worse...take money out of politics....get big business out of lobbying....prevent former congressman from becoming lobbyists and many of our problems will go away...government by the people for the people...that is what is needed...

I have been to countries that have no regard for all of the people...the poor live in terrible conditions....they struggle to survive...for food...its fricking disgusting to let your poor live they way they do in some other countries...big business thrives and the low end citizen lives in a home with dirt floors and barely 4 walls...you have street kids begging and stealing in the streets...its not right...and...the idea of American English...really...get a clue dude....you have issues man...real issues...are you jealous that someone can come to this country and barely speak engish and have a thriving business...really...

Hugo Chavez has control of his country because the poor worship him...he brought them what they did not get and guess what...he now takes private property for the government...he now takes private business for the government...because the poor had noone else to turn too...and they voted him in...thats communism...

My wife thinks you may have issues ... she's from Venezuala, BTW. We agree Hugo is as crazy as they come, but he is not a tyrant, as you suggest.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...
Richard, you are only showing ignorance now. Like I said, there is no official language of the USA. If you think I'm wrong, back it up with a reference. Also, would you mind showing us where it states one must learn to read, write, and speak english in order to come here? Is this in the constitution, or your constitution?

Since I have asked Dick, er, Richard for a reference, I figured I should provide one (or 3) as well:

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_lang.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States

http://www.macmillandictionaryblog.c...age-for-the-us

Don't be too hard on Rich, he is obviously one of those who were born here, and as usual, know less about his native country than those who have had to earn the right to be a citizen ...

Richard, just to help you out in the future, practice this line for when you want to learn spanish:

"Hola (the 'H' is silent, BTW), mi nombre es Richard el idiota."

This will tell your spanish-speaking friends you are a humble, knowledgeable, good-good man!

Dude, I am only a second generation American. My ancestry comes from elsewhere. And for the record, I would greatly appreciate it if people DID NOT refer to me as white. I am American, and only American. DO NOT place a color on me, no matter what color I may happen to be. You'd do well to take on that attitude as well.

As for your reference, directly from the INS website...<---link

Basic Understanding of English Required
To qualify for U.S. citizenship, applicants must demonstrate a basic understanding of English, including an ability to read, write, and speak the language. They must also be able to show that they know the fundamentals of U.S. history and government.

Now I ask you, if it is not the official language, then why is it a requirement? Why were my Grandparents REQUIRED to sit in Ellis Island until they met this REQUIREMENT?

And BTW, I understand Spanish very well. Just because I won't be forced to speak it, means nothing. So keep your derogatory reference to yourself please.

Just because English isn't the official language, it is still the language used by almost all Americans. If you do not know English, you will have a hard time making it in the United States. There is nothing that states I have to cater to anyone who does not speak the same language as me.

What is meant by the key word, basic? Like I said, there is no official language for this country, including 'American English', as you espoused earlier. BTW, is this a different version of English than the King's?

There is no official language in the US. Should there be? Probably, but there isn't, so get over it.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langu..._United_States

Nowhere in the constitution does it say we are or should be a capitalist country. If you quote me the 10th amendment, I will spend an entire post laughing at you.

What we are is a Keynesian capitalist country atm, not a socialist. Obama is a Keynesian capitalist, not a socialist. If you think he is, you probably also believe that he is a secret Muslim born in Kenya. Gotta love good ol fox news.

Agreed. But to tell someone they cannot come to this country because you can't understand what they are saying is wrong as well, is it not? Do you know how difficult, if not physically impossible, it is for someone who is in their later years in life to learn a new language? Try flipping your statement around, and you'll say there is nothing that states they have to cater to you who do not speak the same language as them. Now, what say you?

Push 1 for English, 2 for Spanish, or 3 for Gibberish.

Well, the entire WORLD uses English as the international Business language, so how would it not benefit ANYONE to learn it? I've been to the interior of Mexico, they spoke English to me, I've been to Germany, they spoke English to me, I've been to Panama, they spoke English to me, I've been to the Czech Republic, they spoke English to me. Granted, some of that English was halted, a little off key, but good enough for me to understand what they were saying. Hell, they speak English in Japan, in China, and they don't even have a letter L in those languages. You can find people speaking English in Russia as well.

So, why is it so hard to acquire a BASIC understanding of the English language in order to become a citizen here, if they can learn it in other countries thousands of miles away from here, on completely different continents? It's not like they're asking people to become English majors.

Keep those excuses coming. this is getting really amusing.

I'm only married to a spaniard, I only speak 'American English', and I asked my wife how you should introduce yourself, then typed in what she told me to type...

She told me it was a fitting way for you to introduce yourself, and I'm guessing at what it means, just like "Tu me voelves loquito" means "I love you very much", which she is always telling me. Such a sweet girl...

:rofl:
Agreed. Without getting into a discussion on Broca's area (look it up), I think you'll find most people who become citizens meet said requirement. Getting back to the original point of your avatar possibly making you look foolish (not name calling here, just stating an opinion), and after providing proof there is no official language, defense rest, your honor (still not name calling).

Addendum: I still love the fact we are a melting pot, as it would be pretty boring to have only one language allowed in this country.

Te quiero con todo mi corrazon... Is how I learned it. ;). Then again, I admit, I learned Mexican spanish, not true Spain spanish.

I fully agree. There is nothing that says whoever doesn't speak my language needs to cater to me. In fact, most countries have a recognized language. I would be an idiot to become a citizen somewhere that I could not communicate with people.

Anyway, I think we've strayed off topic way more then Rich usually allows, so...

RON PAUL for 2012!

:iagree:

Hey! No name calling!!! :NoNo::eek:

What do they call a person that speaks 3 languages....trilingual

What do they call someone that speaks 2 languages...bilingual

What do they call someone that speaks 1 language...American

Pretty sad that in our country we are stuck that way....they spoke English to you because thats all they figured you knew...props to them for speaking multiple languages....

Im proud to be an American...Im proud to be an american of mixed background which gives me the ability to look at issues from both sides...

god...whoever becomes president needs to lead us out of this crap we are in...GO VOTE!!!!

At least your humble about it :rolleyes_