Originally Posted by kaco (Post 1354835)

Trans to trans lines are recommended not to breed as they result in low hatch rates, mutations, weaker gene, exc. but theres oppositions on both sides.

Originally Posted by kaco (Post 1354835)

If you use distant lines, far removed, , nothing closely related you can successfully breed trans to trans as a stronger gene.

Originally Posted by kaco (Post 1355953)

I know theres alot of debate on trans to trans breeding. Im still fairly new to the trans gene myself but it has become one of my favorites :) I prefer breeding a trans to a het trans opposed to two visual trans.

I know several breeders that will cross visual translucents. Bloodbank being the most well know, and if you ask them they will say the same thing I posted. Ive shared several emails back and forth on the subject with a few breeders.

I personally would not recommend it, and was not trying to say removed lines would be trouble free, just that in theory or not the farther removed the better and stronger the gene would be. Just touching base on both sides of the opposition.

Believe me I was wary of responding, Ive seen too many trans x trans post debates and feel your pain :-p

Originally Posted by dragonluver83 (Post 1356068)

I know bloodbank has crossed the two gene's. I know another breeder that has done it. I cant comment on bloodbanks end, only speculate. An one BIG thing i noticed from them is over the last few months. MOST of there animals are no longer 6 inches and ready for retail, but I seen his babies being sold at 10 inches. Much longer and much more time. More costly too. Is it because it gives them time to sort out the healthy ones from the un-healthy ones? :shrug01:. That is something he would have to comment on. An from prior post I doubt he would comment on his trans X trans breedings.

The breeder that I know crossed the two from two different breeders. trans x hypo trans. He had a few that didnt hatch and a couple of deformities. An the babies was nothing special that I couldn't hatch myself, but in a healthy cross.

Originally Posted by dragonluver83 (Post 1355912)

This is correct



This is not. The trans gene has been around long enough to be crossed out enough. There are trans, hypo trans, trans leathers, and hypo trans leathers. I dont think it took this long to cross hypos out. (before my time in breeding these genetics) But even with ALL this over the last 4-5 years. I and other breeders (reputable breeders) will to this day still not cross a trans to trans or any other visual trans gene.

You may cross a trans to a trans and get a good clutch. BUT that is just it. It more and likely will only be one and then problems will arise.

I have had problems over the years with breeding a trans to a het trans. Until I can go a few years and not have the problems. I know there not ready to be crossed. So why push the issue, to only produce something that is not genetically ready.

Its a beautiful thing watching your baby dragons hatch. But when you hatch a deformed dragon only because you wanted to make a dollar. Well I wont say whats on my mind. I will just say, This isnt the hobby for you!

In my closing statement because I have argued this enough,

Create life. Do your best to produce the strongest heartiest dragon that you can. DONT play god!