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Draco11 02-11-2012 01:29 PM

Yes, I coverd all bases in correct lighting, And the feeding schedual he was on before, after seeing pics. of him in his cage,
(he looked so stressed, and scared) Also recomended The bearded Dragon manual to him.
Also Yes, I'm glad I got paid.

Susan S. 02-12-2012 10:28 AM

Is this your Beardie Sonia?
 
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Steven posted some ads on Craiglist last evening. He's not selling the animal, just some dry goods. But nice picture of the Beardie.




Susan Sentman
SSNAKES Reptiles

Draco11 02-12-2012 11:34 AM

Yup thats the beardie I sold him

Draco11 02-12-2012 11:45 AM

Yes And the beardie is doing better now after a lenghty conversation on lighting for them....Wish I never sent him and caught him for what Steven is a crook. But all I can do now is whish him well and that Steven keeps up on his care.

Draco11 02-12-2012 05:46 PM

A heads up for everyone wanting to know If I recieved payment. Looks like the dispute/claim is still open, and mother or steven tried to put a dispute on their credit card, But with PP security and by sending them the tracking # I will still recieve my money.
Also Steven is still bugging me about lighting/temps. and feeding though he said he got a vet appt. made for wed. for the dragon.
I've done more than my part, for what he did. So the responsibility of the Dragon is now on him.

reptilebaby 02-12-2012 05:59 PM

I feel for that dragon. I had almost contacted you about him...Thought he was beautiful!

Draco11 02-12-2012 06:07 PM

:iagree: Also had a great personallity, Would bob his head like he owned the world. LOL
My heart goes out for him also

BaltimoreBees 02-12-2012 06:41 PM

I dont get why, if it was honest, they would be disputing it after the second payment instead of the first..

Draco11 02-12-2012 06:50 PM

Probably the mother put a dispute on her CC. I'm not sure if she has the funds. Which is probably why she did it,

The way Steven talks though, it's like he has unlimited funds, even asked me how much a 7 in dragon would go for (forget the genetics of it).
And why would he have other dragons, well from what he said they were still small and probably not getting the proper lighting. I'm thinking he just buy's them, and until their big enough will sell them. But in the case of my male he's prob. thinking of breeding

reptilebaby 02-12-2012 07:12 PM

He sounds like he was a pretty great one. :( TOO good for Steven. I'm sorry that he got him, instead of someone who has more knowledge.

I got interested in beardies cause I heard they liked being held and getting attention.

Pretty sad that he would act as if he has unlimited money...It's pretty sad if his mom taught him it's ok to try and get money back when there's nothing wrong with the animal. :(

Draco11 02-12-2012 07:19 PM

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Wish he went to you, You sound like you know your reptiles.
I got hooked after getting one at petco that "called" to me. I didn't provide adiquate lighting, as I was new and lost him 2 yrs later.
Now after quite a bit of homework both online and reading books. I've got the science down, I'll attach some of the pics I took of him, of the dragon I named Lance

reptilebaby 02-12-2012 07:23 PM

He really is beautiful. Hopefully he doesn't suffer in his new home! And I REALLY hope he isn't able to steal your money from you.

Draco11 02-12-2012 07:39 PM

No worries on the money PP has their security protection so even if she filed complaint on her CC, I'll get my money by providing the tracking # from fed ex. I just hope he dosn't slip up on lighting realizing how much they cost. and having Lance suffer.

reptilebaby 02-12-2012 07:44 PM

maybe he'll be smart and order several at once to have on hand?

Draco11 02-12-2012 07:50 PM

Hopefully.:o
But from stevens e-mails (since I won't be bothered by his calls) Lance eats and bobs his head, but once he's in the room Dragon (Lance) gets scared and runs to a corner.

I want to Go-Go- gagete arms and grab him and hug him till he's content again and a happy boy that I know

reptilebaby 02-12-2012 07:57 PM

Dang, that poor guy must know something isn't right. I don't blame you for wanting to reach out and grab him. :( I just can't imagine how scared he must be.
If he's that terrified he definitely won't be breeding for him! Gotta feel comfortable and safe before they'll breed.

Draco11 02-12-2012 08:10 PM

Well gave him the opption if he agrees that I can send a box and shipping label for his return to me, but no refund would be given, for all the stress and worry about the dragon.

Steven is concerned to about the dragon, so if he has any heart he'll do whats best for him dispite money.

reptilebaby 02-12-2012 08:21 PM

Oh, I hope he does the right thing for that poor animal.
That is a nice thing to do, and if he cares enough he'll do it.

BaltimoreBees 02-12-2012 09:35 PM

That would be really awesome if he does that.

Draco11 02-12-2012 09:40 PM

Well he agreed, I have to send the box. he'll be shipping
And the only way to get him back is to refund half of the payment. Sometimes you have to eat your money for mistakes but he's not getting a payment untill I get the dragon

reptilebaby 02-12-2012 09:50 PM

That's great!! :) And you can make sure he's alive before sending the money. I am SO glad he's coming home to you!

Draco11 02-12-2012 09:53 PM

Thank you every one

Draco11 02-12-2012 10:08 PM

have to eat my mistake for trusting him, But I'll be getting him back!!!

BaltimoreBees 02-12-2012 10:40 PM

Very relieving to hear. I hope he follows through :)

Draco11 02-12-2012 10:49 PM

By my saying I would give half payment back, And also sending packaging suplies, He'll only get the money sent to him after the dragon arrives alive.
I know many of you would disagree about even considering refunding any money.
But to get the dragon back omg I want to get him out of that situation.
And to top it all off he blamed me for not telling him it would take time for acclimation....Any reptile owner knows this so BULL:censored:

If he tries to put up a thread about me, I did more than required to help him And by refunding half the amount paid for I did my part, he is the one who didn't do his reaserch

bpman850 02-12-2012 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco11 (Post 1419744)
By my saying I would give half payment back, And also sending packaging suplies, He'll only get the money sent to him after the dragon arrives alive.
I know many of you would disagree about even considering refunding any money.
But to get the dragon back omg I want to get him out of that situation.
And to top it all off he blamed me for not telling him it would take time for acclimation....Any reptile owner knows this so BULL:censored:

If he tries to put up a thread about me, I did more than required to help him And by refunding half the amount paid for I did my part, he is the one who didn't do his reaserch

I did more then my part. I offed him diff foods. I gave him the same light scheduled u ran. I talked to him and i pet him and i loved him. So know of you cant say I treated him bad i didn't. I went went spent over 100 bucks in lights. The vet said that you over heated him by running a 100w power sun,100w emitter,under tank heater at full blast and a uvb light. the vet told me that since you gave him that much heat that's why he not eating cause he use to that much heat. And that's why he taking so long to eat. His body and him are trying to adjust I am offing him a basking spot around 105 to 110 and the warm side around 80 to 83. I gave him a 36 inch zoo med 10.0 uvb light.. I offer him the same food like super worms, mustard greens,collard greens,turnip greens with the d3 powder on them like you said and even crickets. He will not eat.It;s been 6 days now.

Draco11 02-12-2012 11:51 PM

Like you said, he was scared of you. However it caused him to be scared of you. It must have been something

Draco11 02-12-2012 11:52 PM

You didn't give the dragon a chance, what has it been a week. It takes time for anything reptile to be used to you

bpman850 02-12-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco11 (Post 1419770)
Like you said, he was scared of you. However it caused him to be scared of you. It must have been something

I have done nothing wrong to him but offer him love and a great home. And one very nice setup for him to live in...Like I said I have done more then my part.

bpman850 02-12-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Draco11 (Post 1419772)
You didn't give the dragon a chance, what has it been a week. It takes time for anything reptile to be used to you

I am giving him a chance. Your the one who wants him back. So don't play that cry wolf game on me cause that dog does not hunt here!!!

bpman850 02-13-2012 12:05 AM

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Also here is a pic of MOJO I took early he looks better, and he bobbing his head more and moving around more. Just when he see's someone in the room he stares at you and dont move...

Draco11 02-13-2012 12:24 AM

If you say he's doing well, then why are you agreeing to send him back.
I'm not saying that i don't want him back now, but if your claims are true them why would you send him back in the first place.

So I get the dragon you get half the payment back as agreed after I recieve the dragon...Case Closed.

bpman850 02-13-2012 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Draco11 (Post 1419779)
If you say he's doing well, then why are you agreeing to send him back.
I'm not saying that i don't want him back now, but if your claims are true them why would you send him back in the first place.

So I get the dragon you get half the payment back as agreed after I recieve the dragon...Case Closed.

I really don't wanna send him back. I am just tried of you bltching on what I do wrong. I have done everything right. And you lied to me when i firsted called you I asked you if he eats crickets good and you said he loves his crickets. Then after i get the dragon And he does not eat. You tell me he only eats very lil crickets and he likes super worms. So case is not close. I Keep him.. If he dies I want my money back or other dragon. And you have ask me over and over to get him back either for free or full refund or half refund. If you want him back so bad send me 220 in a check or a money order or a cashiers check. So we both are coved

bpman850 02-13-2012 12:53 AM

I am also taking him to the vet wensday to get a full check up and a fecal done if they find anything wrong with him that they feel that happen when you had him i want a refund or pay for the vet bill. also you calm the yellow stain on his vents and lower belly is cricket food right do you have proof its just cricket food?

Draco11 02-13-2012 12:58 AM

No I want my dragon back we made a deal!!!! I said he was picky on his crickets and was mostly used to supers.
You can't handel the dragon I wasn't the one complaining, you were the one calling all the time. If dragon dies it's on you. I want my dragon back as deal was met, You agreed

bpman850 02-13-2012 01:00 AM

I hope its not yellow fungus. If he has it. that would not wanna make him eat, and that would full on you cause he would have to gotten it when he was with you. And if it is yellow fungus please let me know now so i can get this matter fix before its to late.

bobtard 02-13-2012 01:02 AM

Just ignore Steven. He's trying to scam you, again.

You got your money back the first time, do you really want to risk it again?

bpman850 02-13-2012 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Draco11 (Post 1419791)
No I want my dragon back we made a deal!!!! I said he was picky on his crickets and was mostly used to supers.
You can't handel the dragon I wasn't the one complaining, you were the one calling all the time. If dragon dies it's on you. I want my dragon back as deal was met, You agreed


If you want him back so bad send me 220 in a check or a money order or a cashiers check. So we both are coved....

I can handle him I been handling him the whole time. I love this lil guy I want to give him the best life he can have. Like I said when a vet tells me you were running to much heat who would you trust the vet been seeing reptiles for over 20 years i go with the vet on this one...

bpman850 02-13-2012 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bobtard (Post 1419796)
Just ignore Steven. He's trying to scam you, again.

You got your money back the first time, do you really want to risk it again?


FYI, I am not trying to scam anybody. I am not going to give him back to i get what i paid for him

Draco11 02-13-2012 01:07 AM

You know nothing from what I saw
Once a con always a con. INBREED
like mother like son


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