Yes, he said he would overnight it today (based on emails from yesterday). I'm going to the NARBC show tomorrow so I'll check the mail when I get back from the show tomorrow afternoon/evening.

I just sent him another email asking him to verify that he mailed the refund back today via USPS next day mail. I'll update the BOI tomorrow with the results when I return from collecting my mail.


Regards,
Ron Crawford

Thank God I had a GREAT time today at the NARBC show in Philly! Otherwise, my day would have been spoiled once I checked the mail today and DID NOT FIND ANY MAIL FROM VEASNA MUTH!!!

He sent me an email stating that he would overnight my refund for Saturday delivery and had the nerve to come to the BOI defending himself! I phoned my attorney and told him to move forward with contacting Veasna's local police department and bringing fraud charges up on him.

Veasna Muth has destroyed his crediblity in the herp world and should be AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS! If you would even entertain doing business with Veasna Muth, contact me first. I'll sell you the Golden Gate Bridge for a good price!

*** WHEN DEALING WITH VEASNA MUTH, BUYER BEWARE! ***

I'm going to checkout some of the cool stuff I got from NARBC today so I can feel better. ;)

Have a fun weekend folks

he used a postal money order right?


he's screwed.....

Finally someone that has the cajones!!
 

Finally....I have typed this before but I just got back into reptiles after 10+ years. I was dealing before the internet got big and I have seen nothing but rip-offs and scammers.

It's a real shame. I guess there are rip-offs and scammers in every hobby/business but too bad there are so many losers in this one.

Cheers to all the folks with sound ethics and solid dealings. Keep it up! Hopefully we can weed out all the crooks with the help of this site and word of mouth.

Take it easy-

Bthacker

Woah there fellas... he probably has scammed you, but if he sent it overnight YESTERDAY using USPS then they do NOT guarantee their overnight service... with a federal holiday mucking up the works I'm guessing that you'll get it Monday or Tuesday, or even Wednesday. Just a slight note of hesitation. I've been sent USPS overnight about 5 times, and only ONCE did it get here overnight. Best to be SURE he's scum before bringing out both guns.

I betcha that you weren't dealing with someone that took a week to get back with you. This guy has nothing but excuses and you just gave him one more!!!

I would bring the guns out now.....you could always put 'em away!!

Ron....has he answered his phone or are you done wasting your time?

Bthacker

I'm done wasting my time with him. I tried to phone him and emailed him asking for confirmation that he sent the refund money overnight per my instructions. Guess what? No reply from him after I sent that email. I guess someone stole his house too and his computer was in the house so he couldn't email me, eh?

I'm going to spend whatever it takes (attorney fees) and prosecute him. It's not about the money anymore, it's about the principal and stopping people from doing this again by making an example out of someone. Today is his lucky day as he will be the example. I'll be happy knowing that he will have a felony conviction on his record. And yes, we're also going to sue for attorney fees so it's going to cost him well beyond $450 in attorney fees alone, not including his attorney fees (assuming he will not use a public defender).

We have all the electronic documentation, paperwork and correspondence we need! He's actually researching some cases now and sent me this link to brighten up my weekend. http://www.crime-research.org/news/28.10.2004/747/

I can't wait until Monday to get this ball rolling since nothing can happen over the weekend :(

If in fact it was sent overnight
 

providing a tracking # would have eased allot tension. But chances are that from his prior experiences , if he had not acknowledged even receiving your money, what makes you think he would even acknowledge sending it back!

I certaninly would pursue internet fraud. Its Federal, as well as whatever civil action you can take to hurt him at least credit wise. This is the only way you can stop these kinds of people who seem to drift to the herp industry

This has been my big gripe all along. Attempting to police our own industry is impossible. With the opportunity to change your business name as many times as you want, including email addresses, nothing prevents people from going in and out of business daily.

Yikes
 

Serious biz!!

Bthacker