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to say it is a "fact" that free handled animals lose their urge to bite is incorrect. the urge may decrease, but they never ever lose the urge. they are and will be wild instinctual animals, no matter how many generations of cbb they are. for example, a family dog still has instincts had times, but if you have the smell of dog food on your hand and you put your hand in front of their face, a high percentage of them will just lick your fingers and wag their tail happily. if you rub your hands on a rat, then stick it in a snakes face, their full wild instinct kicks in and they, a high percentage of the time, will bite.
so, again, to say they lose (usually) their urge to bite is incorrect, they are wild and the urge is always there |
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Dear Strike_Force_Reptiles I use hooks and sticks as an aid for handling venomous snakes regularly and so can't be too opposed to them, BUT, don't kid yourself about snakes liking them.
They tolerate them at best.... Snakes can and do adapt to handling with hands and due to the thermal properties of the human hand (hot in cold and cold in hot, relative to the environment), snakes learn to like being handled, especially in places like where we live (Melbourne Australia) where the ambient temperature is often too cold (usually) and occasionally too hot for snake's comfort. As a rule, all snakes prefer free handling to hooks, sticks and the like and hence from the animal wefare point of view, free handling always wins. Ask almost any owner of a python or colubrid, who free handles their pet daily and ask them why they don't use a stick. ALL THE BEST ALL THE BEST |
you show me a python or colubrid that used to be venomous and i will give a little more thought to my next answer
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Strike_Force_Reptiles I hate to say this, BUT, minus the venom, snakes generally don't vary as much as people think AND often it's the harmless ones that are more aggro! PS - I've never had a free handled Death adder bite in over 40 years! |
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WOW after reading what i just posted i completely changed my mind about venomoids and using hots for shows. even if i use a hook kids can get the wrong idea. i wont be using them at shows anymore. hmmm guess even the wise can wise up. guess there really is no reason for venomoids
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I'm just now seeing this thread, so someone else may have already addressed this, but: I see you live in Alexandria, a couple cities over from me. If it is not already illegal to own a venomous snake there (which I actually don't think it is yet), it likely soon will be. Did you see the Washington Post article a while back about the guy whose escaped hots resulted in a major change to Arlington statutes? The article indicated that Alexandria was considering a ban on venomous snakes as well, and naturally there is strong community support. I haven't followed any pending local legislative debates, but did your extensive research extend to considering legal aspects of ownership, current and pending?
That's a real question, the answer to which I'm curious to read, but I also have a comment: your opposition to people using "venom 'grows back'" as an excuse not to perform this procedure is just nonsensical. I doubt "growing back" is the technically accurate terminology for what happens, but it has been shown repeatedly and conclusively that venomoid snakes can and do still produce venom. So. Take that for whatever it's worth to you; you seem to be very set in your "feelings." |
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