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Broken down

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Originally Posted by Robert Walker (Post 2028646)

I may have missed it, but was this animal sold to you as a "proven breeder"?

Side rant independent of the this thread:
Sometimes it is hard for us to remember that these are individual animals with distinct personalities & preferences, they are not automated machines.

Meaning, just because we want them to breed with a specific girl/boy, doesn't mean they will.

Similar to humans, there are simply some that may have very little to no reproductive sex drive.

Low testosterone

It happens. Selling off animals that won't "produce" is fairly common. Not saying that is the case here. Unless it is 100% a pet, animals cost money to maintain and that cost can be justified by some because they hope to recoup those losses by producing offspring.

Meaning, you bought the animal as an investment, but if it will not breed, you cannot sell babies to recoup the cost of the original dragon plus upkeep.

No offspring, no money...animal gets sold.

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Originally Posted by Robert Walker (Post 2028672)

"Never been bred"
What does this mean to you?
Did you ask him elsewhere if he was a proven breeder.
If the dragon has "never been bred", then the seller admits he doesn't actually know if the male is great, good or bad at breeding...he simply doesn't know. Those waters have never been tested.

By you purchasing a unproven animal, you also don't know. You took a gamble by not purchasing a "proven breeder", correct?

Had he not stated he would make a great breeder there would be no dispute at all..... go see the message I posted directly from him..... In the end yes it is on me for purchasing an untested male and relying on something someone stated...

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Originally Posted by Snake-Queen (Post 2028669)

Yes.

If I could get pictures to attach, (not working for me today) I'd show you.

Hopefully these will work https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3936556cca.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cfbd28fe40.jpg

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Attached are some bearded dragon sexing guides.

Congratulations, you have a female bearded dragon.

with light it looks like the first pic

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Originally Posted by Snake-Queen (Post 2028680)

Congratulations, you have a female bearded dragon.

lol had I known that I would have taken that in stride and not had a whole fit.... thanks sigh

You're welcome.

That is why it wasn't interested in breeding.
You received a nice female for $175. Now find a male. :)

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Originally Posted by Redsky29 (Post 2028681)

with light it looks like the first pic

The first pic, top or bottom?

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Originally Posted by Redsky29 (Post 2028634)

He has never been bred...but he would be a perfect breeder for yellow/orange lines.

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Originally Posted by Redsky29 (Post 2028675)

Had he not stated he would make a great breeder there would be no dispute at all

Hopefully this all can be a learning experience for you and others reading.
Putting aside the male vs. female issue (thanks Melissa), twice the seller clearly states "he has never been bred". Any other statement past that regarding future breeding gusto by the animal is 100% speculation.

As buyers it becomes our job to understand these statements. "he would be a perfect breeder" alone is an improvable statement. It becomes the sellers job to avoid such insinuations, BUT it also falls on the excited buyer to realize what "never been bred" actually means.

I take the sellers statement of "would be a perfect breeder for yellow/orange lines" to be more of a generalization of genetic pairing possibilities vs. any kind of guaranteed claim on behalf of the dragon's sex performance (had it been a male).

As for the seller not responding, that is a different matter that needs addressing if this is in fact a female.