Dean Stemple Strictly Exotics BAD GUY!
It sucks that it's come to this but here we go. The short version is that I sent Dean a bunch of animals and he's not paying for them. I had done business with him in the past so I was willing to take the risk and send them without payment. I was in the process of moving and didn't want to take these animals with me and there was a window of opportunity in the weather which had been too cold and would be too cold again soon so I went ahead and sent them without getting paid on them first. Dean told me several times that he had sent some payments and I should be getting them soon but no payments have ever arrived and now he's stopped all communication. Almost everything was done via e-mail so I'll post them all next. These start on 11-9. There was stuff before that but it's not pertinent. Stay tuned.....
Me on 11-9 Hey Dean, The 10 lot of pastel males did in fact sell. They didn't take the normals though. Anyway, here's a list of what I have left and their regular prices... Ball Pythons 3 pinstripe males $450 5 axanthic males $2000 3 pastel males $150 5 pastel females $500 26 normals $260 1 male het axanthic $50 4 female het axanthic $600 1 mojave male $150 6 yellowbelly males $300 6 yellowbelly females $900 1 spider male $100 Boas 4 hypo het albino and anery males $400 9 hypo het albino and anery females $1350 8 double het snow males $600 2 double het snow females $200 I think that's it. Normal price for all that is.... $8010. If you take it all, and pay with postal money orders, I'll do it for half price. $4005 and I'll eat the $300-$400 that shipping will cost. I realize that's quite a chunk of cash but there's lots of room to make some money on them. Alright, let me know what you think. Thanks. -Chris Dean on 11-9 Hey Chris, Nice package deal. The problem for me is the weather has already turned. We are getting below 40s at night now so we wouldn't be able to receive until spring like last time. I could probably come up with the cash within a month or so but, I realize that doesn't help you any. That's a lot of mouths to feed on the meantime. I want the deal so don't take it as that I don't. If I could come up with 4k tomorrow, I would jump all over it. Let me know if you can think of anything and I will speak to my wife and see if she has any ideas too. Regards Dean Sent from my iPhone Me on 11-10 Hey Dean, Yeah, I see your weather is up and down. I think we could get them out to you if we did it soon. Let me know what you come up with and I'll think on it some and we'll make this happen. Thanks! -Chris Me on 11-19 Hey Dean, You guys come up with anything? I just wanted to touch base with you and see what you had in mind before I sell any of the stuff on the list. Alright, let me know. Thanks. -Chris Dean on 11-19 Hey Chris, Right now, it would be impossible to come up with 4000.00 in time for the Christmas season to get those to sell. I could do some of it right now, but that probably isnt what you are looking for. On Fauna, Ive been trying to raise some more cash to see if I can get close to the 4000.00 but not getting very far. I know I could come up with some of it, at the same price break, by Monday for a Monday shipping but not sure if I can arrange more. Dont get me wrong though, I am really trying... LoL I dont know if you would be interested but if you were willing to do the same price break (half), I think I could defnitely do the 3.0 Pinstripes 3.5 Pastels 26 Normals 1.0 Mojave 1.0 Spider Let me know what sort of pricing you can give me on those animals in the meantime. Me on 11-19 Hey Dean, How about this... If you send me half the money, I'll send them all to you and you can pay on the remaining balance over a few months. Just let me know what size payment you can swing and we'll figure out the timeframe. We did a good sized deal last year and you trusted me with your money so I feel as though you'd be good for it. Am I right? I could do the smaller deal, just not as good pricing though. On that group you mentioned, you'd be looking at $1610. I'd do them for 25% off which would be $1207.50 plus shipping which will run $200 for the 4 boxes. It's still a good deal, just not nearly as good as the big package. Alright, let me know what you think. hanks. -Chris Me on 11-19 By the way, the reason I want to move these out so soon is that I'm moving. I'd rather ship them to you than move them to my new place. Know what I mean? Dean on 11-19 Chris, I know where you are coming from and yes, I know we have a great working relationship with a lot of trust involved. I would never think that you would keep my small money, or me keep your snakes without paying. I will see what sort of cash I come up with this weekend and email you first thing Monday morning and let you know how much I came up with. I think I can get close to 2000.00 but its going to be tight. Dean Me on 11-21 Hey Dean, Here's what I'm thinking. If you can get postal money orders for whatever you can come up with and e-mail me pics of them, filled out with my name on them, I'll ship these all out to you tomorrow afternoon. You can also mail me the money orders tomorrow and let me know what kind of payments you're comfortable with for the balance. I don't usually work this way(never actually), I just want to get these out so I don't have to move them. Alright, let me know what you think. Thanks. -Chris Dean on 11-21 Chris, I totally understand. Been trying to figure out how to work this for both of us as well since this is so new for the both of us. Heres the thing, I will have about 1000.00 tied up in PayPal tonight after my Super Pastel goes. I know I can send you a 1000.00 for sure via PayPal, I will pay the fee (3%) even though there shouldnt be one since it wont be a credit card purchase. If I do money orders, the soonest I could send one out would be Wednesday since PayPal takes forever to fund bank accts. What I was thinking is if I do that for the first payment, I can send money orders every two weeks, say from this past Friday for 500.00. That would take care of this in 90 days or so. I would be willing to pay, say like 10%. It would only be fair being that its a net 90 type of deal and thats probably what most companies would charge me. Let me know if that works for you or not. I can understand if it doesnt. Regards, Dean Me on 11-21 Hey Dean, Sounds good. Can you please confirm your shipping address for me? Thanks. -Chris Dean on 11-21 Chris, Dean Stemple 2700 Poplar Ln Norman, Okla. 73072 405.886.9378 Let me know if you need anything more. Thanks, Dean Dean on 11-21 Chris, Will you do me a favor when you bag them up... Will you seperate them by sex, even if it means putting axanthic males with the pastel males and so forth just so I can quickly get them prepped for the shop? I would greatly appreciate it. Dean Me on 11-21 Hey Dean, Sure, that's no problem. Do you need paperwork on the hets or are you going to make your own? I haven't made any up yet. Thanks. -Chris Dean on 11-21 Chris, I will just make my own. I trust you among the many others regarding your guarantee. Just do me a favor and somehow let me know which hets are in which bags. Dean Dean on 11-21 Chris, Sorry for the holdup. I am just waiting on the guy to pay me on the Super Pastel then its going straight to you. Was supposed to have it done by now so I dont know what his deal is. Dean Me on 11-22 Hey Dean, It's all good. I'm going to send these out today. I can wait for a postal money order if you don't mind paying that way. I had a slight error in my ratios. 1 of the male boas was actually a female so you got a little bonus there. I won't be able to check my e-mail for a few days so if you need to reach me, give me a call or shoot me a text. Alright Dean, thanks again and I'll talk to you soon. -Chris Dean on 11-22 Okay... Chris, Here is my number 405.886.9378 if you need it for anything. Dean Dean on 11-23 Chris, I know you dont have access to emails at the moment but I wanted to inform you that the packages have not arrived yet, 1PM cst. I just got off the phone with FedEx (didnt give them too much info) to ask them when my packages will arrive as they state that they are on the truck. I guess the truck broke down and they had to get a "rental" truck to complete delivery. Anyhow, I made them aware that we (you) will be filing a refund on the shipping rates. This was just to give you a heads-up. I will follow up with you as soon as I can check out the snakes. Regards, Dean Me on 12-3 Hey Dean, Sorry for the lack of communication. Moving sucks! I'm sorry that these got there late. I'll call Fedex later today and see what they have to say. Did everything arrive ok? How are they all doing? I'm not sure if I'll be able to check this e-mail address anymore so you can e-mail me through my site or at chris@ahrensexotique.com . I can check that address from anywhere. I should have internet up and running at the new house in another week so hopefully I'll be able to be in better contact after that. Alright Dean, thanks again and I'll talk to you soon. -Chris Me on 12-3 Hey Dean, I just got off the phone with Fedex. They state that the packages were delayed due to weather and not elidgible for a refund so I guess that's all there is to that. I just wanted to let you know. Thanks. -Chris Dean on 12-3 Hey Chris, They are so full of it. They were in okc by 630am so on top of the weather, they still had a truck break down too. Anyhow, all of them arrived ok despite the shipping issues, which is no ones fault. I had no doubt that they would be fine regardless. I will be sending you a money order this coming Monday, Tuesday at the latest so please email me your address that you want me to mail it to. Hope you had a great holiday Regards Dean Sent from my iPhone Me on 12-6 Hey Dean, My mailing address is... Chris Ahrens P.O.Box 515 Elfers, Fl. 34680 Hopefully I remembered your e-mail address right and you get this. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks. -Chris Dean on 12-9 Got it. Will send it out today. Dean Sent from my iPhone Me on 12-17 Hey Dean, I still haven't received that payment. Did you get a chance to get it sent out? Thanks. -Chris Dean on 12-17 Hey Chris, You should have received the first envelope by now. I sent it out last Friday. Let me so some research and find out what the holdup is when I get home. Also, I will be sending out 500-600 this Tuesday as well so let me know when you receive that one. The first one was for 900.00 Dean Sent from my iPhone Me on 12-18 Hey Dean, That's weird. Please let me know what you find out. Thanks! -Chris Dean on 12-18 Chris, Not a problem. Hopefully it shows up I'm the their system somewhere. Sent from my iPhone Me on 12-21 Hey Dean, Still nothing. Did you find out anything on your end? Thanks. -Chris Dean on 12-21 All they have told me so far is that is hasn't been cashed yet. It is possible that I may have sent it to a wrong p.o box, from what they said or put the wrong zip code on it which might be delaying it. I plan on sending one out for 500.00 tomorrow evening and hopefully I can find out when I can get a re-issue on the 900.00 one. Dean Sent from my iPhone Me on 12-30 Hey Dean, I still haven't received any money orders. Where are we at on these? Thanks. -Chris Me on 1-11 Dean, Where you at? I e-mailed you and haven't heard back. I still haven't received either of these money orders. Please don't leave me in the dark on this. Let me know what's going on. Thanks. -Chris That's it for the e-mails. Next will come a couple texts. I still have these saved on my phone so if anyone local wants to see them to verify, I'm cool with that. Here they are... Me on 1-12 Hey Dean, This is Chris Ahrens. How's things going? I've been trying to e-mail you but I'm not getting any response that way. Maybe you're having computer issues? Where are we at with these money orders? It's been a month and I still haven't gotten any payments. Is everything ok? I'm starting to worry here. Please let me know what's going on. Thanks! I then called Dean a couple times on 1-14 but no answer. Then... Dean on 1-14 Chris not trying to avoid you and an working on rectifying the situation asap. Going through some family issues at the moment as well as a couple of other things so please give me a week or so to start making things right with you. So sorry for this Me on 1-14 Dean, thanks for getting back to me. Communication is key. I'm the easiest person in the world to deal with. Just let me know what's going on and don't tell me something's on it's way if it's not. Sound good? Dean on 1-14 Ill explain late7 but yes you are right Me on 1-28 Hey Dean, any updates? You said to give you a week and it's been 2 weeks now. How is it coming? So that's where we're at. No response to e-mails, texts, calls, smoke signals, whatever. Before anyone responds with "you should have never sent them without payment" Please understand, This isn't my first rodeo. I knew the risk. I took it and here we are. This is not me whining about getting ripped off. This is just an informative thread to let people know that Dean isn't as good a guy as his "Good guy" threads and his "BOI Good guy certification" would indicate. I have all the original e-mails if anyone wants them forwarded to them or again, if anyone is local, they can stop by and see them on my computer. |
By the way, his website is down now too. It baffles me that someone would "grab the money and run" for this amount. Is it really worth selling your name for such a small amount? You got a bunch of co-dom stuff and some hets. Not exactly a great "score".
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Sorry to hear about this Chris. It's funny how Dean accused me and someone else here of slandering his name about his possible involvement with the Wise scam. Now, after seeing this, it really makes you wonder if he did play a role in the Wise scam.
What's up Dean? You claim you are Mr. Goodguy. How come you haven't paid this man his money? Why are you ignoring him? How did you get a Fauna Good Guy Certification, Dean? You don't look to good now. |
Disgusting. And I'll just hold my tongue on the other words that come to mind.
Pay the man his money. |
Hmmm..... Has anyone heard from Dean recently?
His last log-on here was almost 2 months ago?? Quote:
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Chris,
Let him know this thread is up. I'm sorry this is happening to you, particularly the lack of communications :( |
Yeah, I sent him a link with an invitation to salvage his reputation. We'll see what he does. Wanna hear the kicker? I spent $349.26 in shipping on these!
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Just to clarify - he was supposed to Payal the first 1K (contingent upon the sale of his Super Pastel) - correct? But he never did. Instead he stated he sent a $900.00 Money Order, followed by a $500.00 Order, both of which are mysteriously missing. Something I noticed in Dean's email of 12-21: "All they have told me so far is that is hasn't been cashed yet. It is possible that I may have sent it to a wrong p.o box, from what they said or put the wrong zip code on it which might be delaying it. I plan on sending one out for 500.00 tomorrow evening and hopefully I can find out when I can get a re-issue on the 900.00 one." Now, if there was really a remote possibility of Dean sending Chris' payment to an incorrect PO Box or the wrong zip, wouldn't Dean want to confirm the mailing address? Particularly if he actually intended to send another payment "tomorrow evening" (12-22) as he stated? One doesn't assume one has sent anything to a wrong address, intend to sent something else the very next day and NOT verify the address. :shrug01: He's got your snakes, you also paid nearly $350.00 to ship and now you don't have jack to show for your kindness. Nice, Dean. Can't wait to hear the explanation. :rolleyes: |
Chris, I just wish I knew about your offer.........I would have jumped on that quick and flown to FL to pickup.......I hope this ends well.
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