How do you leave feedback for someone? Trader Rating not working
 

I recently sold some cages to someone and we are both trying to figure out how to leave feedback for one another but when either of us tries it won’t allow us. I'm referring to the 'trader rating' when you complete a transaction you can leave the person a feedback. It's not working for me and the buyer. When I click her ‘trader rating’ link next to her User ID name and then click “submit feedback for …” so I can leave her a feedback, It says this:
Yaz23, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Can anyone help?? I have no idea whats going on. Thanks so much!

You have to be a paid member in order to leave feedback or trader ratings.

Ohhh ok, thanks! How much do you have to contribute? Is it just one time or is it a requirement to do it every month or anually or something? Just trying to grab some info, sorry : )

Annually

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K, got it. Thanks so much for the quick responses! : )

I understand that having the trader rating system "pay to play" is an attempt to encourage members to contribute to this site.

However, I would like to point something out.
I just completed a transaction with a Contributing member.
He left me positive feedback in the trader ratings.

I have not renewed my paid membership at this time and can not leave him positive feedback in the trader ratings.

That just seems bass ackwards to me.

I am able to be left positive feedback, and receive trader rating points as a non contributing member.
The contributing member, that paid his dues is not able to get the credit that he deserves for our transaction.

On a whole nother' subject:
Has anyone else noticed that Chris@TSE still has the #4 all time leading trader rating?

The trader rating system could be improved, IMO.
(Especially if the BOI goes away.)

Sure... So tell me how well the trader ratings would work if ANYONE could vote on it simply by registering here. How would you like it if a single person with a gripe about you registered 20 false names here and slammed you with 20 negative ratings. Who would you come to wanting to fix THAT problem?

Thanks, but no thanks. The way it is now is not perfect, but so far any alternative considered would be even less perfect.

"I see, said the blind man."
That makes perfect sense Rich.

I would suggest that anyone could leave positive feedback, and only contributing members could leave negative feedback, but it is not hard to see that method being abused in order to pump up trader ratings either.

I guess someone would really have to be pissed at another member in order to pay to register 20 names and tag their trader rating.

I guess although it has the down side of non contributing members being able to receive positive feedback, and not for contributing members to be able to get the credit that they deserve from non contributing members, it seems that you have it set up the best possible way.

Sorry for taking up your time.
Thanks,
-Rob

This sort of thing is what the Feedback Forum is for.

Seriously, though, I do try to thoroughly think through anything I do here. But realistically somethings are completely unknowable in advance and just have to be tried and then review the results. Some will work, and some won't. Those that don't work get changed or discarded. Anyone who has been here for a number of years has witnessed this process taking place.... And certainly it's not over with yet.

I totally feel you Rob! Someone bought from me but was not a contributing member, so they left me good karma, of course, they don't have karma so it doesn't count towards anything plus no one else can read the comment they made (it was really nice of said person to try!) it's just a limitation of the system as it's set up. We just need to get more contributing members :D

Throwing out an idea here, since I seem to deal with many people who are not paid members and I would like to see my trader ratings go up.

I don't know if it's possible, but if it is, contributing members can leave rating for non contributing members, (like the system is set up now.) And non contributing members cannot leave a rating until a contributing member leaves them a rating first. It puts the ball in the contributing members court to initiate the ratings. The non contributing member can only leave a rating for the contributing member that left them a rating. The non contributing member could only respond to the contributing member that left them a rating.

Know what I mean?

:iagree: that would be great, however there are additional custom coding costs to implement something like that, as i was told.

Not to mention that, in effect, I am being asked to spend money to help visitors here NOT have to spend their money to become contributing members. ;)

Maybe as an extra encouragement to contribute, we should not allow ratings for persons that are not contributors. A person wants to build up their reputation and receive ratings, then there gonna have to contribute for that priviledge.

I'm sure all this has been discussed by the powers that be. So please excuse me if I step on any toes.

Actually, I believe that the way it presently is, is much more encouragement for a member to become a contributor. Chances are that many of their customers are NOT paying members, so possibly they themselves may encourage their customers to become so in order to help with that feedback rating they are accruing.

And on the flip side, a person who is doing "not so good" business, could easily dodge the negative feedback simply by not being a contributor member. This in itself is a big strike against this suggestion, I would think.

Someone PM me when you get it all figured out lmao. Glad I found this thread I think. lol

What's to figure out?
The Trader Rating system can only be used by paid subscribers. Simple.

:iagree: click on his coins to become one.

There are a few forums that allow trader ratings without having to pay. I have never really seen it abused, but I see how 'bad' people doing that.

I agree with those who feel it is unfair that if they pay and leave a rating, but they cannot receive the same in return because their customer wasn't a paid member. That isn't fair. I was going to sign up, when I saw you had to pay to be able to leave a rating, but I would like to be able to reap some benefit if I have to pay to leave positive remarks for someone who isn't a paid member.

Because there are so many unpaid members, it makes me not want to pay, as I won't reap any positive ratings for transactions. I would hate to ask everyone I do business with if they're a paid member, and if they're not then too bad they don't get a rating from me. I'm not doing something that I can't get back in return. I'd like to be known as a good seller/buyer, but if there's no guarantee that I'm going to be benefited, what's the point?

*My two cents**

They don't need to be a paid member to start a good guy post on you. (Imo, more important)

There are other benefits to being a paid subscriber, the Trader Rating system is only one of them...frankly, the best way to build your name is through participation, and it is that realm that the benefits become noticeable and worthwhile.

(Speaking of which - the Member Benefits Table kinda needs an update, Rich)

Now Harald... he has more pressin things to do... Like fix the URL upload function :D

Too bad that's how it works. I am suspicious about a possible poacher and feel they need to clarify if their toads are CB or poached. BTW its technically a protected species and there are state laws regarding taking them from the wild. The sellers are not being forthright with me and what they have told me make me suspicious about how they acquire the toads. Especially the last email i got from them.

I don't quite understand how being able to leave a trader rating would help in this situation? Trader ratings are to leave feedback for people that have done business with each other.

You could always make an inquiry or info thread on the BOI...

-April

Thank you! I am still learning my way around here and just learned that I can't leave ratings/comments LOL so I will go to the BOI and re-post there. Thanks for some direciton! :))Its really appreciated!

so how much do i have to contribute?

The lowest level of paid membership is $25 a year.

kinda sucks
 

i cant get many ratings at all because everyone i am doing business with is not a contributing member but me, only thing I am able to do is leave good feedback for NON Contributing members..... doesnt seem fair....

Perhaps. Perhaps not. If someone you piss off comes here and creates 10 false registrations simply to bombard you with 10 negative feedbacks, how fair will you think that will be? And how fair will you think it is when we tell you that we aren't going to do anything about it without YOU providing rock solid proof to us about those false registrations?

There will be no way to express any rebuttal to those negative feedbacks at all. So then what will you think about that situation?

Think it can't happen?

I recently became a contributing member but I am still unable to leave ratings ?
Thanks for any help in advance
-Huston

Some of the features aren't accessible on unused accounts (I think the "start" is 10 posts for karma, for example). The site is also experiencing some technical difficulties which may affect its ability to process the membership. This can also be affected by the payment method - ie, echecks must clear before the membership will be processed.

Rich is working on getting things sorted out; so hopefully the technical stuff will be fixed in the near future. For the time being, make some posts (eliminate that from the equation).

Ok Thanks Harald I'll make some posts and I payed through PayPal

Sorry, but among the issues exhibiting themselves with the server problems is the fact that PayPal payments are no longer showing up to update the accounts here. So I have to check for email notices, and the try to match up those payments with the member names here and update the accounts manually. Quite frankly, there is often no match at all between the info in PayPal and the info in a member's account here. And if their ISP (Yahoo, for instance) is blocking emails from this site because of the settings they have in their spam blocking (I presume) then they will never get my email about the problem. Which leaves the payment in limbo and no way for me to contact them about it.

So in such cases, my only option is to wait for them to contact me about the problem with their account not being update.

All in all this whole week or three has been a real pain in my buttocks.

Ok Rich, what info of mine do you need to match the payment to my account
Thanks
-Huston

If the boi doesnt get dissolved,most people are ok with a goid guy post in the boi. Thats how half of my customers use since not being a paid member. And easy to look up.

I just re-subbed today. I have some snakes I am expecting next week and I'd like to leave feedback/ratings then. My PayPal info matches my account as far as name, but my location has changed by 15 miles. No rush, but I'll let you know if it doesn't kick in by next week.

I agree with RJK it would be great if something could be done with the trader ratings.
I have done three deals with other members on the site and we all are in the same boat.
All three deals went smooth and everyone was satisfied with the deals.
But its a big secret :)
Love to see some change in the future to what we have in place.
Love the site I am on it every day as I am sure most of you are.