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Again do your homework; It is really difficult not to impulse buy.
I think that some great strategies are....
Let the buyer beware. If it sounds like to good of a deal, then it probably is. Walk away.... Understand that reptile shows are a swap meet. The healthiest and best animals are not there. Research the animal you are interested in, and look for reputable breeders. Email them or call them, If they are too busy to reply, or help you, move on. |
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All though it was an amphibian and there was extremely cold temperatures we give 48 hour gaurantee on all animals sold at shows as long as it can be provided with pictures. She emailed me the pictures and it was verified to be one of our animals. That being said there was no other dead animal on my table that is a false claim and can not be proven. For anyone buying wild caught amphibians at a show the possibility of there being issues is there especially when bringing a tropical animal out into a freezing cold car. Thanks
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If it makes any difference Mr. Gangemi, I would probably buy from you. I have bought snakes (rosy boas) from a breeder in Maryland and had them shipped to California without issue. Knowledge and communication....
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This is a different issue, but one that I think needs to be addressed. If wild caught amphibians are so fragile and there is a significant chance of them dying before getting them home, why are you dragging them to shows during the winter months?
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Valid question, JCCS. Particularly given the post Billy made almost one year ago, after the original dead BTS complaint, after transporting animals from New Jersey to Atlanta Repticon last January:
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Great advice but if you had a bad show you most likely couldn't fit everything you brought back into your quarentine room. My quarentine room is about 1/4 the size of my herp building and I usually had new animals taking up the space in the quarentine room already. You're right, reptile shows are only swap meets / yard sales for herps. A few show organizers tried years ago to keep it clean and professional by setting up 'rules' like only captive bred animals being offered (never followed by everyone) and having a vet walking around inspecting things. Nice effort but that was impossible to keep up and enforce so in no time the higher standards they tried for were abandoned. Another person posted about dangerous winter conditions. When I did shows I wouldn't think of doing them in the crazy winter temps .... vechicle break down or an accident and your animals are gone in no time. I remember one idiot who drove from Florida to Pa to do a winter show with maxed out credit cards and not enough cash for a motel when he arrived the night before. Slept in his car at about 20 degress in the venue parking lot and lost everything. D'uuuhhhh ::censored:: :censored: :censored: :censored: |
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Almost everywhere, there are temperature extremes that need to be compensated for. Although maybe if you were hauling enough critters you might plan a backup driver and vehicle if there were mechanical issues. As the Mikes above have said, making sure that the vehicle is of the appropriate temp prior to the critter getting in is the key. Quote:
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