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crotalusadamanteus 03-18-2006 11:43 PM

Some Hot trivia
 
OK, since we have so many hot keepers with alout of experience, (pun intended) I thought of a trivia question.
There are some 20 odd species of Crotalinae..............Who can name them all?
I can think of probably close to 20 myself, but I am sure I am lacking being out of the loop for so long.

Have fun,
Rick

sppeavy 03-19-2006 03:08 AM

i have been looking for you. I was in west texas this past weekend. found a few critters. Anyways, A friend from washington and i are comming to do some herping in your area this spring. He is flying in to El Paso and im meeting him there. We are going to go west first, then come back to texas. You want to help out in your area? I have never herped around you. Let me know, Thanks...............sppeavy@hotmail.com, Later

crotalusadamanteus 03-19-2006 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppeavy
i have been looking for you. I was in west texas this past weekend. found a few critters. Anyways, A friend from washington and i are comming to do some herping in your area this spring. He is flying in to El Paso and im meeting him there. We are going to go west first, then come back to texas. You want to help out in your area? I have never herped around you. Let me know, Thanks...............sppeavy@hotmail.com, Later


Man, you aint even going to guess at one? Jeez! Yer no fun at all. :raspberry

Yeah, if I remember correctly, you emailed Me once about this. Feel free to do so again, or PM Me with your email. We can exchange numbers or something. I cannot make plans too far in advance though, I have to go to AZ next month sometime to get My big girl and her new babies, and I have some tentative plans for heading down south Tx for some field herping there coming up. It all lies in the timing I guess, but I am interested. Just keep Me up.

Now, you gonna guess at the question? HA HA

Rick

sppeavy 03-19-2006 05:14 PM

I can think of a few
 
Im a bookworm, so here you go......
Agkistrodon
Atropoides
Crotalus
Gloydias
Bothriechis
Bothriopsis
Bothrops
Sistrurus
Ovophis
Hypnale
Calloselasma
Lachesis

Now, there are a few (around 10 or so) Testudines. Know any. I have the luxury of recieveing reptile books at every holiday. That all I freeking get.

sppeavy 03-19-2006 06:27 PM

Or did you want individual snakes?
 
Every venomous in the U.S. except the corals and sea snakes. ie.. all rattlers, copperheads, and cottonmouths. This list could go for a long time.

crotalusadamanteus 03-19-2006 06:46 PM

Nope, you are answering just what I was looking for. There are still more though. I am hoping someone will put some I don't know. Something maybe recategorized for example (like the Western ssp of Rattlers.)

In answer to your question, I happen to know that one from some research done a while back.
Is this what you are sking for?

Carettochelyidae
Chelidae
Chelonidae
Chelydridae
Dermatemydidae
Dermochelyidae
Emydidae
Kinosternidae
Pelomedusidae
Testudinae
Testudinidae
Trionychidae

Those are the 12 I found when I was looking for some ID info a while back. But Turts and Tort's aren't hot. LOL Anymore that you know of?

Anyone else gonna try? I know BW will show up eventually and name them all. HA HA HA

Rick

sppeavy 03-19-2006 08:10 PM

Heres a few more
 
Cerrophidion
Deinagkistrodon
Ophryacus
Porthidium
Trimereurus
Tropidolaemus

I think that makes 18 so far. Ill look for some more.

crotalusadamanteus 03-19-2006 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppeavy
I think that makes 18 so far. Ill look for some more.

Cheater. Are you looking them up or what? HA HA

After we get them all, which is your favorite, and why?

Rick

sppeavy 03-19-2006 11:00 PM

I had to find the last 6
 
There are so many to choose from for a favorite. I really like our native Trans-Pecos Copperheads. A friend has found one that is almost red in color. I also love the Rock Rattlers and the Protected Ridgenose Rattler. My overall favorite would be the Cantil. Thats a beautiful snake. Everytime I see one, I drool all over. Hey, you seeing any critters yet. I have found a few around here, but the temps are dropping out on me. Its supposed to snow this week. I know turtles are not hots, but it was a similar question for you. Its funny you mentioned that though, I got in an argument with my ex-roomates girl over a supposedly poisonous turtle and she wouldnt let it go even after I proved it was not true. She had read about box turtles eating poisonous mushrooms, and then the native indians getting sick from eating the turtle meat. She didnt understand that the turtle couldnt poison you with a bit. It was pretty funny how dumb she was. Anyways, I talk toooo much.

crotalusadamanteus 03-20-2006 07:12 AM

Cantil huh. They are nice, and they really fascinate Me also. We have a couple here at our zoo. We also have a banded RR that I donated to them a few years back. Rocks are really hard to find in this area. Mostly I find them as road victims. US Stateside, I would have to go with the ridgenose being a favorite of mine as well. May have to do with the fact I've only found one in the wild, and never really "got My fix" of them. World wide, I have a thing for the Trimerasurus family. The few that I have seen caused this same drool you mentioned earlier. They are very cool looking.

As for the "poisonous" turtle. I do not know enough to make a claim on that one. Look at the poison dart frogs. Their toxins are developed from their diet, so is there some possibility in this happening???? I can't say. Now "venomous", I know there are not any around that I ever heard of. Many people do not know the difference between venomous and poisonous though.

As for critters........The weather here has been so screwwy, even I don't want to come out yet. LOL We have had a lot of wind and blowing dust from these storms that are dumping stuff up north. On the job I have seen the lizards coming out, but not one snake yet. My Texas Horned Lizard has not shown himself yet either. He lives in My yards somewhere and comes out in the spring/summer. Actually, the ants around here are barely waking up also. I have not actively looked yet though.

Here are the Crotalinae I can come up with...............

Agkistrodon
Atropoides
Bothriechis
Bothriopsis
Bothrocophias
Bothrops
Calloselasma
Cerrophidion
Crotalus
Deinagkistrodon
Gloydius
Hypnale
Lachesis
Ophryacus
Ovophis
Porthidium
Protobothrops
Sistrurus
Triceratolepidophis
Trimeresurus
Tropidolaemus
Zhaoermia

Now we need someone who REALLY knows this stuff to come and add the ones I am sure I left out. :)

Rick

Rattlesnake 04-10-2006 01:32 PM

There are 31 species of Crotalus and some 40 something sub species of Crotalus. I think around 47 or 48.

Junkyard 04-10-2006 05:24 PM

Does my list count?

Agkistrodon
Agkistrodon bilineatus
Agkistrodon contortrix
Agkistrodon piscivorus
Agkistrodon taylori

Atropoides
Atropoides nummifer
Atropoides olmec
Atropoides picadoi

Bothriechis
Bothriechis aurifer
Bothriechis bicolor
Bothriechis lateralis
Bothriechis marchi
Bothriechis nigroviridis
Bothriechis rowleyi
Bothriechis schlegelii
Bothriechis thalassinus

Bothriopsis
Bothriopsis bilineata
Bothriopsis medusa
Bothriopsis oligolepis
Bothriopsis peruviana
Bothriopsis pulchra
Bothriopsis punctata
Bothriopsis taeniata

Bothrocophias
Bothrocophias campbelli
Bothrocophias hyoprora
Bothrocophias microphthalmus
Bothrocophias myersi

Bothrops
Bothrops alcatraz
Bothrops alternatus
Bothrops ammodytoides
Bothrops andianus
Bothrops asper
Bothrops atrox
Bothrops barnetti
Bothrops brazili
Bothrops caribbaeus
Bothrops colombianus
Bothrops colombiensis
Bothrops cotiara
Bothrops erythromelas
Bothrops fonsecai
Bothrops iglesiasi
Bothrops insularis
Bothrops itapetiningae
Bothrops jararaca
Bothrops jararacussu
Bothrops jonathani
Bothrops lanceolatus
Bothrops leucurus
Bothrops lojanus
Bothrops marajoensis
Bothrops moojeni
Bothrops muriciensis
Bothrops neuwiedi
Bothrops pictus
Bothrops pirajai
Bothrops sanctaecrucis
Bothrops venezuelensis

Calloselasma
Calloselasma rhodostoma

Cerrophidion
Cerrophidion barbouri
Cerrophidion godmani
Cerrophidion petlalcalensis
Cerrophidion tzotzilorum

Crotalus
Crotalus adamanteus
Crotalus aquilus
Crotalus atrox
Crotalus basiliscus
Crotalus catalinensis
Crotalus cerastes
Crotalus durissus
Crotalus enyo
Crotalus horridus
Crotalus intermedius
Crotalus lannomi
Crotalus lepidus
Crotalus mitchelli
Crotalus molossus
Crotalus polystictus
Crotalus pricei
Crotalus pusillus
Crotalus ruber
Crotalus scutulatus
Crotalus stejnegeri
Crotalus tancitarensis
Crotalus tigris
Crotalus tortugensis
Crotalus transversus
Crotalus triseriatus
Crotalus unicolor
Crotalus vegrandis
Crotalus viridis
Crotalus willardi

Deinagkistrodon
Deinagkistrodon acutus

Gloydius
Gloydius blomhoffi
Gloydius halys
Gloydius himalayanus
Gloydius intermedius
Gloydius monticola
Gloydius saxatilis
Gloydius shedaoensis
Gloydius strauchi
loydius tsushimaensis
Gloydius ussuriensis

Hypnale
Hypnale hypnale
Hypnale nepa
Hypnale walli

Lachesis
Lachesis melanocephala
Lachesis muta
Lachesis stenophrys

Ophryacus
Ophryacus melanurus
Ophryacus undulatus

Ovophis
Ovophis chaseni
Ovophis monticola
Ovophis okinavensis
Ovophis tonkinensis

Porthidium
Porthidium dunni
Porthidium hespere
Porthidium lansbergii
Porthidium nasutum
Porthidium ophryomegas
Porthidium porrasi
Porthidium volcanicum
Porthidium yucatanicum

Protobothrops
Protobothrops cornutus
Protobothrops elegans
Protobothrops flavoviridis
Protobothrops jerdonii
Protobothrops kaulbacki
Protobothrops mucrosquamatus
Protobothrops tokarensis
Protobothrops xiangchengensis

Sistrurus
Sistrurus catenatus
Sistrurus miliarius
Sistrurus ravus

Triceratolepidophis
Triceratolepidophis sieversorum

Trimeresurus
Trimeresurus albolabris
Trimeresurus andersonii
Trimeresurus barati
Trimeresurus borneensis
Trimeresurus brongersmai
Trimeresurus cantori
Trimeresurus erythrurus
Trimeresurus fasciatus
Trimeresurus flavomaculatus
Trimeresurus fucatus
Trimeresurus gracilis
Trimeresurus gramineus
Trimeresurus gumprechti
Trimeresurus hageni
Trimeresurus insularis
Trimeresurus kanburiensis
Trimeresurus labialis
Trimeresurus macrolepis
Trimeresurus macrops
Trimeresurus malabaricus
Trimeresurus malcolmi
Trimeresurus medoensis
Trimeresurus nebularis
Trimeresurus popeiorum
Trimeresurus puniceus
Trimeresurus purpureomaculatus
Trimeresurus sabahi
Trimeresurus schultzei
Trimeresurus septentrionalis
Trimeresurus stejnegeri
Trimeresurus strigatus
Trimeresurus sumatranus
Trimeresurus tibetanus
Trimeresurus trigonocephalus
Trimeresurus truongsonensis
Trimeresurus venustus
Trimeresurus vogeli
Trimeresurus yunnanensis

Tropidolaemus
Tropidolaemus huttoni
Tropidolaemus wagleri

Zhaoermia
Zhaoermia mangshanensis

crotalusadamanteus 04-10-2006 05:50 PM

UH, that's not a list..........That's a book. HA HA And pretty complete too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattlesnake
There are 31 species of Crotalus and some 40 something sub species of Crotalus. I think around 47 or 48.

I was speaking of the greater family of Crotalinae, where Crotalus is but one species. Looks like we have 22 listed, care to add some to it? :D

Rick

crotalusadamanteus 04-10-2006 05:52 PM

Since Michael is feeling so enrgetic, maybe He would like to show us pictures of them all. LOL

Rick

Junkyard 04-10-2006 06:25 PM

Okay, give me some time to round them all up.

crotalusadamanteus 04-10-2006 06:38 PM

Tick Tock, Tick Tock, Tick Tock, Tick Tock,

Junkyard 04-10-2006 06:43 PM

Agkistrodon bilineatus

Agkistrodon contortrix

Agkistrodon taylori

Agkistrodon piscivorus

Junkyard 04-10-2006 06:47 PM

Atropoides nummifer

Atropoides olmec

Atropoides picadoi

Junkyard 04-10-2006 06:56 PM

Bothriechis aurifer

Bothriechis bicolor

Bothriechis lateralis

Bothriechis marchi

Bothriechis nigroviridis

Bothriechis rowleyi

Bothriechis schlegelii

Bothriechis thalassinus

crotalusadamanteus 04-10-2006 08:44 PM

Man, how much searching did that take you? LOL Nice pics BTW. Always wanted one of those Both... schlegelii. Those bright orange colors are sweet.

Rick

Tim Cole 04-10-2006 09:09 PM

Nice work
 
collecting those pics Michael. :beer:

BWSmith 04-11-2006 09:37 AM

Quote:

There are some 20 odd species of Crotalinae..............
Quote:

I was speaking of the greater family of Crotalinae, where Crotalus is but one species. Looks like we have 22 listed, care to add some to it? :D

Rick
Ya'll are killin' me. Crotalus is not a species it is a genus ............... say it with me ..... jeeeeeeeeeenuuuuuuusssssss :>poke2<:

*snicker*

Bah, by the time we type everything out, they will change the nomenclature anyway. Coffee has not kicked in yet this morning, so here
http://www.embl-heidelberg.de/~uetz/...Viperidae.html
:dgrin:

crotalusadamanteus 04-11-2006 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWSmith
Ya'll are killin' me. Crotalus is not a species it is a genus ............... say it with me ..... jeeeeeeeeeenuuuuuuusssssss :>poke2<:

*snicker*

Bah, by the time we type everything out, they will change the nomenclature anyway. Coffee has not kicked in yet this morning, so here
http://www.embl-heidelberg.de/~uetz/...Viperidae.html
:dgrin:


HA HA. Knew you'd come and straiten us up. That's why we keep you around. LOL
Yer probably right though. I was just looking, and there are several on Michaels list I have not heard of before. Just goes to show the learning never really ends.

Rick

BWSmith 04-11-2006 02:14 PM

oh, there is quite a few on there that I would not have gotten anyway.


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