Leash Training Crocodilians
Does anyone out there know how to leash train a crocodilian? You know like the old fashioned times. I really want to get into the exotic pet trade but cant from my home state of Massachusetts. I was thinking about getting a place in Florida and learning how to tame big animals starting with alligators because they seem to be the easiest so I would want to learn if leash training one is wise and still legal. I was also thinking about getting a female dwarf caiman but I heard there pretty nippy. Do people usually tie up the mouths when they take them out for walks?
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Yes it can be done, id stick with gattors, but no its not wise.
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yes you can put a leash on a crocodilian, no it cant be leash trained, ethically and legally i do not think this is a good idea, nor practical. Dwarf caiman are going to be your best choice if you want a tame crocodilian. they only get roughly 5ft, and most coming in the trade are farm bred. They can be nippy as babies, but pretty much all species crocodilians are. Ive seen dwarf caiman owners be the most successful in keeping a tame crocodilian, mostly because of their smaller size.
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Well I have seen other videos of owners walking there crocodilians and its actually been a common practice among exotic owners for decades, possibly centuries since the Egyptians kept crocodiles and worshipped them as pets. My question is would a dwarf caiman be alright at Florida temperature? Or will it need extra lighting since its from South America initially. I'm thinking about starting a project where we could make small domestic caimen by selective breeding. |
as common a practice it may be, its unethical and dangerous ( not just physcially but society often looks down upon things they do not understand, and with the way the reptile industry is now, its asking for trouble) imo. These animals have been around for millions of years with only instincts to drive them to surivive, the idea of having them being trained to walk on a leash like a dog for a couple of years does not negate their natural behavior. You can keep caiman in florida all year round outside as long as it doesnt drop below 40 you should be fine. If you do start this caiman breeding project be aware that truly domesticating an animal takes hundreds of years (even longer) these are still wild animals your dealing with regardless of how long theyve been in captivity or if they were bred in captivity. You should treat them as such to avoid problems.
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Get a dog if you want something to take for walks.
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Here's my answer. American Alligators are more likely to be considered "tame"...but their size is prohibitive. Dwarf caimans are a very manageable size, but they lack other "pet" qualities. Spectacled caiman are in the middle.
Now, on to the real issue. If you are talking about leashing a crocodilian inside your facility, that's one thing. Taking it out in public is another; and, frankly, it's a bad idea. I doubt that would be approved under the FL permit, and you may find yourself facing charges and/or paying fines. While some people would think seeing a guy with an alligator on a leash is pretty cool, others would have a far different reaction. Even if nobody says anything, somebody will probably call the police (voice of experience, here - many years ago, I had my permitted alligator out in my backyard...saw nobody around, and still got a visit from the police because they got several phone calls). Oh, and one more thing. Keep in mind that if anybody gets injured by your crocodilian while it is leashed, you will likely get sued. People do stupid things, like reach for animals, all the time; so don't think it won't happen. If you tape it's jaws shut, many would consider it cruelty....and argue that if the animal is that dangerous, you shouldn't be dragging it out on a leash (or loose in your facility) in the first place. |
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Why is anyone even entertaining rthe TCs question, its obvious from his comment that he wants something more imprssive to walk than a dog, that he is just one of these no account punks who make others look down on us Reptile keepers. Why even acknowledge trash like this? He is no different than the ones who feed kittens to snakes, and post the vids on youtube.
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Just so I get this all correct, you want to show that these animals aren't just mindless beast and that we can life in harmony with them by placing on an wild animal that symbol of human subjugation, control, and slavery over them called a leash?
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hmm I'm sure you guys can try to express yourself without profanity and attacks on each other right? We are adults?
If you want to continue to fight, take it to PMs. -April |
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You say you have compassionate love for these Animals, no you don't. If you did, you be trying to replicate their Natural Environment the best you can and giving them proper care. Not trying to force a leash on them, to bend their bodies to your will and trying to get them to live without the vitals they need, and so on. These are not the actions of one who cares for these animals, these are the actions of one who is evil and seeks to do them harm. A Caiman is not meant to be leashed up, Lizards aren't meant to be kept in cold dank prisons without the benefit of basking lights, etc. |
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Goodbye.
And if you return from your month away with content like that, you'll be removed again (for much longer). |
Dude, seriously you had better check yourself. You have no idea who your trying to threaten here, but I'll give you a few clues, my last job for the last decade included the words SF in it, I wore ACU's, jumped from helios, and have personally taken well over 30 lives. Your a fool and just some punk kid, nothing more. Your no one to fear.
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People sure do learn slowly around here, sometimes.....
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I don't own crocs and I doubt I ever will, but someone earlier in the thread mentioned taping jaws shut and I may as well ask since this really isn't enough to start a thread about. Out of sheer curioisity. Is there no other way to keep their jaws together? I know crocs don't really have a head for something like a dog muzzle to work out, but I'm surprised no one has bothered to make an old fashioned "cage" style muzzle work out for them. Or have they? It seems like they would be more comfortable than having tape pulled off their skin. :( This is all speaking in absolute ignorance though. For all even I'm not thick enough to want to take a croc to the park on a little walk to look cool. |
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Sorry this is a dead post but I thought I’d add this comment for any fellow/new keepers considering leashing. My family has been keeping crocs since I was young. My father kept an American alligator, he was very “tame” like how most hatchling gators you purchase are for a number of years. I believe after about 3-4 years my dad tried putting a reptile harness on him and from that very moment he never trusted humans again became very defensive.
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Hahaha this can't be real ? This had to be someone playing a joke , right ? Did he really reference the magic School bus in his argument. Hahaha made my day.
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Yes definitely. I've reviewed some news stories on alligators being snatched from people in Ohio and the two stories I reviewed they were both tame house pets who were reported by others for mere possession. The one guy called his "Wally Gator" and said it got along well with his dog and cat. He had it for years and bought it as a baby at a reptile show. It was supposedly five foot long but in the picture it looks smaller than that. The other gator was kept for twenty-five years and was only five feet long. You can Google the stories. |
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