I hate to say it Ashley but that vet report does nothing to exclude IBD. Some of the symptoms mentioned in the history are associated with IBD and certainly it could have contributed to this animal needing to be put down. Since you have a boa whose necropsy was positive for inclusions and at least one python dead with IBD type issues I would be very cautious and very nervous.
Read Adyra's first post very carefully. This disease can take very different paths to manifest itself, and it seems that boas can be asymptomatic for a long time. It sucks to be in that position but what else can you do? It is good that you have not seen anything recently but in all honesty you are not out of the woods yet. I would lock everything down if I were you. Nothing in nothing out and hope for the best. Good luck! Adyra, my sympathies. I do not know how I would be if I were in your shoes, it must be very rough. |
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However I will say if you'd have done all that BEFORE selling/adding snakes, this thread would never had existed. Quote:
However I'm worried it IS possibly something and you've now exposed other people's collections based on an assumption everything was ok. |
Ahem, Adrya, sorry I misspelled.
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If you read... That was the history that I told them...
When I was concerned about my burm it was because she was smearing her face against the glass leaving saliva, which I'm guessing was the "stomatitis", that animal never had mouth rot or anything... Also when I tried to feed her she didn't even look at her food where she would usually try to take your arm off... When she finally lazily wrapped the rabbit she just laid there with it... She slowly poked around at it and then decided not to eat it... She was very weak when I took her into the vet and she was very slow in moving and wanting to right herself, which she DID, but it was very lazily... The vet had her for the weekend, alive, because they couldn't send her off until Monday... He said they kept her warm and over the weekend she was acting better, alert, roaming the bin she was in and acting normal... I was very upset because I had already made the decision to put her down and send her off for pathology... But I still did... |
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In Ashley's defense she has conflicting vet reports? So that with some hoping can lead one to believe all is ok even if it is not:shrug01: And for what it is worth, none of my snakes exhibit a "writing" reflex either, no matter how many times I leave pens in their enclosures, so I am not sure how that fits into an IBD diagnosis or not?:rolleyes_ Sorry, couldn't resist. Not good in something that is supposed to be professional correspondence...:NoNo: |
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I know Adrya has been in contact w/ Dr. Jacobson and has spoken to him about her collection's problems and any similarities. |
You're right the thread probably still would have come up, but not because people are out to get you. A negative could still be a positive. IBD is notoriously hard to diagnose in live animals if they aren't showing obvious symptoms. Sometimes even if they are, they don't test positive for it that's why this disease is so dangerous and worrisome to breeders. Sometimes even animals that people are SURE died from IBD don't show the inclusion bodies. I'd say even if the tests come back negative a warning should still be let out to your potential buyers and the waiting period you stated earlier should still come into effect. Maybe not one that blatantly says hey these guys could have IBD, but maybe a reminder to quarantine? I just know I'd be upset if someone had an incident or two of possible IBD deaths and I wasn't told about it...
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Right now the claims show you knowingly were acquiring/selling/donating snakes AFTER having those results. Which is really worse?? |
I understand... and yes, I believe that is a good idea... If I still lived in Fla I would offer that Dr. Jacobson could do the tests on my snakes... But I don't know if that is possible at all...
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