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Ed Clark 08-12-2018 12:00 AM

Keven Vogenberger Misrepresenting Imports.
 
Ran across this ad in the skink forum,he is clearly trying to sell imported blue tongue skinks as captive breds.





Keven2
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Cape coral fl
Age: 45
Posts: 418
Name : Keven vogenberger
Keven2 is at reputation level -100 to -299
Trader Rating: (2)

Captive born baby halmahera blue tongue skinks 179.99
I have some adorable little captive bred baby halmahera blue tongue skinks available for 179.99 plus shipping. These little skinks are all feeding great and doing great. Please call 239-233-7585.
I provide live arrival guaranty and I guarantee my reptiles to be healthy upon arrival. Everything is shipped next day over night. If there is an issue with the animal upon arrival I need to be called within one hour of being delivered. I will need pictures of the animal with our shipping box taken however we want the pictures taken.by purchasing this animal you agree to my terms
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Ed Clark 08-12-2018 12:12 AM

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This is 1 of the pics from the ad.

elena 08-12-2018 12:58 AM

Ed, how do you know they are WC?

Ed Clark 08-12-2018 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by elena (Post 2092953)
Ed, how do you know they are WC?

Did not say wild caught.

Said imports, not ruling out WC though.probably CH imports. that is when the natives catch gravid females and hold them until they drop a litter of babies.then all kinds of bad things happen to that adult that dropped the litter of babies.

Like the females get exported,many of those mothers will die in shipment or maybe they don't get exported and just eaten.

Read keven2's ad.
title says captive born and the body of ad says captive bred.
they sure as hell are not captive bred.

ChuckFinleysGeckos 08-12-2018 02:02 AM

He just orders from strictly and resells at a bit above their price, his sales lists always mimicks theres with a slight raised price

elena 08-12-2018 02:17 AM

Assuming he did get these animals from Strictly, how does that tell us that they are WC? Doesn't Strictly sell both imports and CBB?

R3dguitarist 08-12-2018 02:39 AM

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of Keven either, BUT, there is a sad lack of evidence on this thread and it’s looking a little too much like the Salem trials for my taste. Can anyone actually substantiate the wc origins, and if not, can we stop the baseless bashing?

bcr229 08-12-2018 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Frog (Post 2092960)
Read keven2's ad.
title says captive born and the body of ad says captive bred.
they sure as hell are not captive bred.

For those of us who, like me, do not keep and who are not familiar with skinks, can you point out how you can determine this from the ad and/or pictures?

Snake-Queen 08-12-2018 11:59 AM

To my knowledge, true CB skinks are in the $250 - $350 range.

That isn't to say his aren't, I don't know for certain. I myself would ask who the breeder was, as anyone who has bought CB skinks would have that information for their potential customers.

MikeCurtin 08-12-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by R3dguitarist (Post 2092968)
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of Keven either, BUT, there is a sad lack of evidence on this thread and it’s looking a little too much like the Salem trials for my taste. Can anyone actually substantiate the wc origins, and if not, can we stop the baseless bashing?

This.....all day long, especially considering the source.


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