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Since I posted the question I have bought 2 precision cages which I find the best for my non climbing desert geckos as the bulb/s are directly in the cage and ofcourse they cant reach them . Great for night heat or day if needed . For lizards that cant reach bulb but do well with unihibited light,etc these cages are great .
I have bought 2 Barr cages which are great for snakes . Come in only white but if thats no big deal good cage .
I have also bought 4 cages from HighEndHerp cages which I prefer because Custom made (Well made to plus I prefer sliding door ) .
The first two which was my original question are good and if not for the last place which I use now would have bought more of each as no complaints .
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