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Old 08-21-2007, 09:33 AM   #10
chuck tornetta reptiles
John K Birgel,
Let me say 1 st you gotta have the worst luck out there as far as killing reptiles !
whats the K stand for " kovorkian "
before I sold you and boas when I was a dragon breeder you would tell me how this snake died or that dragon died . But thats not what I came here to discuss
I think you have a hell of a nerve posting here negative about a guy who went above and beyond to go out of his way to try and satisfy a customer - and based everything upon TRUST!
It is 100% true that you purchased a BEAUTIFUL albino male and 2 adult heterozygous females from me way back in 01 . ( hets purchased from another snake breeder )

now you never said after 2 years the albino died but I guess it makes your story sound better ! So let me be the 1st to say I am sorry for your loss . Nun the less
It might have been 05 you come to me and say you got a litter and no albino from one of my girls ,
I offer you a package of baby hets I produced and you took it ! you even sighned a contract guaranteeing you there true hets and ending this dispute ! we shake hands and you leave happy. "yea rite"
3 months later you say you were talking to another snake breeder and he got you all fired up saying you should not have taken babys to replace an adult . ( I did not twist your arm , your a big boy and made your own disision )
You further treaten to sue me ! actually thats how I was notified about anything you send me some off the wall email about how you think you can sue me for 35,000.00 because you should have been producing albinos or something , meanwhile I guess you blamed me for your lack of being able to produce albinos the first 2 seasons you had the snakes , what were you blaming me for your lack of boa breeding .
This made no sence to me so I tried to call me friend John who left my home in such good sperits not long ago.
After a few messages John answared and was so Irate he said he was sueing me and hung up!
I had a sighned copy of a contract agreement JOHN himself had sighned just 3 months earlier stating that the above situation had been resolved and john had been satisfied.
After about a week I guess this sunk in , I get an email from john, I call him and tell him I will offer him one of my Dh, coral albinos from 03 I produced from breeding my coral albino male x het albino . these were in the 3 foot range by then.
( im guessing this is the dark skinny het your refering to ) OK .
I kept 8 of them for my own future breeders --I gave 1 to john
again he left happy and sighned a new contract stating that he has been satisfied .
John now says in the post that the female died ! are you serious .
all 7 of my girls are doing just fine . in fact I have 7 girls left het coral albino ,big and fat .and 2 males albinos from that litter 1 coral 1 regular albino and there father
and nun of them have any lumps or cancer or problems of any way ,shape or kind
so you either have the worst luck with animals or you wanted your story to sound better ,
I then get a call from john about a lemon pastel from the nerd line i was selling
he offered to trade me baby 100% het albino boas
I remember it being 8 but if he says it was 10 ok .makes no difference for this argument !
I took them in as 100.00 each and was selling the lemon for about 1,000.00 ( remember this was 05 and they were very expensive then .)
after a couple of months im on the phone with a guy who knows john and his reptiles very well and close . he even took care of johns reptiles from time to time.
He tells me them hets I got from John K Birgel were in fact possible hets from a striped het albino male bred to the big female I sold him . ( i never contacted john because i did not even want to start doing business with him again ) thats why I say he has a hell of a nerve posting this.
Im not even sure he proved my female not to be a het now, if he says he lost the male and someone else says he used a striped het albino than what would you think ?
It took me a while but I sold his boas as possible hets and even lost money .
as far as possible het albino balls i dont remember selling him and at all
but if I did and they did not prove out .oh well there possibles I never guarantee that possible stuff no-one does .
I wish you the best of luck in the future John, I dont know what you did or what you didnt do, I cant tell what died or did not die , all I can say is
I took care of you 2 times now , you left happy
im done with this whole thing ,
good luck with your animals and breedings in the future I hold no ill reguards
Chuck
Chuck Tornetta Reptiles .