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Old 08-05-2006, 07:47 PM   #3
FunkyRes
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Originally Posted by reptilebreeder
1. There's a bill floating around the CA legislator (don't know how far it's gotten), that would ban the sale of native reptiles, period. As it looks to be written it appears that it may also make the use of racks a no-no. At least at the sizes currently being used. Also, if you buy snakes, or even feeder mice you will have to give them your personal info-name, address, phone number, which I think is garbage, but that's just my personal feeling. So you might want to look into the progress, or keep an eye on it before you decide. I think there's a thread around here that talks about it, try checking the legal or legislation forum or whatever it is called.
I heard about that - that's the bill that originally wanted to forbid the sale of pinky mice for food, though I think that has been dropped.

I'll definitely find out more about it. I'm actually not using racks at the moment, but I already bought a bunch of tubs for the purpose of building racks.

I'll find out about the current progress of the law and see if I can supply some form letters objecting to it to local pet stores for customers to take, sign, and send in to the legislators.

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2. Sadly I don't know the actual real law about CB snakes in possession. Anotherwords, I don't know if legally you can still only have four in your possession even if they are captive bred. If you were just some Joe off the street and bought more than four, but never sold them or bred them, I don't think F&G is going to come to your house with warrants and guns drawn, but I don't know if it's technically legal. If you have a permit you can buy more, sell them, breed them, etc. You will have to keep meticulous records, even for out of state purchases. All my out of state purchases have given me a receipt, so don't know why you didn't get any.
Only one of my purchases was out of state (I bought the juvenile female from a hobbyist in Alaska). The albino I bought from a breeder in California - I could get a receipt for her easily enough if I wanted to, but the PayPal transaction record I hope is good enough.

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3. The process is pretty simple, contact them they will send you a packet, that has all the regs, and you fill out all the forms, and send it back with the fee. One thing about becoming a breeder is you give them (F&G) permission to inspect the facility whenever they want, for some people who run their business or hobby out of the livingroom, or bedroom, that can be kind of a personal issue, otherwise not really a big deal.
Yeah, I figured they would be allowed to do pop in inspections.
I don't have a big problem with that.

I do have to check on the bag limit for California Alligator Lizards.
Since that was my first reptile, even though I really only want snakes - I did go out and collected one that I thought was exceptionally beautiful. Turns out she was gravid, the eggs are now incubating. I do want to find homes for the young, but not until they are eating large crickets because they are more fragile when they are small. I have 10 eggs and I think the bag limit on those is 12 so I should be OK. I don't intent to do any further breeding of those, they can only be given away - not sold.



Your albino is exempt, Ca exempts albino's, so I think you can even breed and sell them without a permit. They have to be homogeneous, not hets or something. Ca specifies albino as "lacking in melanin AND having pink eyes, so they are the only ones exempt, even though you can't find a 90% banana king in the wild they aren't exempt, nor are any of the other morphs. Even the one strain of "albino" Rosy, I do not believe is exempt, because it doesn't have pink eyes.[/quote]