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Old 11-10-2003, 12:52 PM   #7
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Personally I dont believe there was an albino ball python from NERD that died. I think this was all made up garbage meant to strong arm Kevin into free animals. However for the sake of this I will assume and respond as though there was one from Kev that died.
Adam cold not produce a receipt for the animal or anything at all to prove it came from Kevin other then Dereks word.Derek couldnt rember what was bought from who he claimed to have bought two albino balls and one het. Kevin rembers selling an albino and a het togther but Adam claims Derek says he only bought an albino from Kev and purchased the pr from someone else. Now with this we have found that Derek holds absolutly no credibilty as he sat back for over a year watched Adam lie about the whole situation and even came here as recent as two weeks ago and backed up Adams lies. So if there was an actual albino ball that came from NERD that one of these two owned and killed considering they couldnt even produce a receipt for the animal my opnion is it was purchased from someone else, probally a hobbyist with only a couple animals. Then when Derek killed the animal the whole thread was nothing more the an elborate set by the both of them. NERD has a very good reputation within this buisness. So if they could make it appear as though the animal came from NERD and it was somehow Kevins fault it died,they could strong arm Kevin into giving them something to replace the animal.
Posted by Adam
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I purchase my animals from the breeders I do is because I feel they are big enough people in this business with enough of a reputation at risk to be trusted
Actually instead of saying "at risk to be trusted" it should say "at risk to be blackmailed" probally just a goof on his part
They were more likely to get a larger amount of return from someone like Kevin then if they went after a hobbyist. Also looking down the road if the replacement was from Kevin(NERD) it would have a higher resale value for the animal itsself and any offsrping it produced. We all know that something coming from Kev or any of the other "big names" has higher sale value then animals coming from a hobbyist. As I said the above is just my opnion based on what has happened and looking at the change of events the above theory makes perfect sense to me. Below is some more quotes that help outline my theory. Some are redundant from my prior post however I felt important along with some of the others I have been pulling from the older threads.



Posted by Adam
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8/02 My partner purchased an Albino ball python at the Daytona Show.
Above Adam is claiming Derek was his partner. Now below he is claining Derek was not.
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There was never any "partnership" per say made.
Below Adam is refering to the albino ball python.
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8/05 The animal was place in my care, was feeding fair and in good physical condition.
The below qoute was posted by Derek only a couple weeks ago

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I would just like you to know that you are completely wrong about Adam's fictitious dead ball python. I was there when he received it,
This quote was posted by Adam only a couple of days ago, he planly states it was kept by Derek for the first two months

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Fact of the matter is the snake (albino ball) was kept by Derrek Roberts for the first 2 months.
Take note to the quotes by Adam above 8(aug.)/02/2002 he claimed it was purchased by partner. Then on 8/05/2002 he received it. Then

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10/02 The animal was fed and two days later ended up regurgitating her meal between nine and eleven pm. Less then twelve hours later the animal was dead.
He claims it regurged and died two days later which would be 10/04/2002. He says it was with Derek for the first two months. So what we have here is either it was with Derek up till it died, then they both lied. 8/02/2002-10/04/2002 = 2months and 2 days. Or it was with Derek till the day it regurge(exactly 2 months) then after it regurged these two decided they were going to shuffle it from house to house and cage to cage further stressing it out(which right there would explain cause of death) in which case Adam would have actually told the truth for once(what a concept) or Adam completly lied about the time of death along with everything else because he didnt post the thread about Kevin till Jan of 2003 over 3 months after he claimed the animal died.

Now lastly below are several more qoutes from Adam showing how he claimed the animal was in his care.
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As for the snakes drinking. I of course can't say it drank each and every day. I will however say I never saw the snake go more then 5 days without taking a dip in it's water dish.
Humm now this below quote is cute. How was he assured of anything when in fact it was his so called partner that bought the animals in Daytona when he was in AZ?
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I was assured that I was getting a healthy animal free of any troubles
From who?

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4) The snake ALWAYS had water while in my care.
Always had water in his care? Maybe he is refering to once it died. Maybe it was kept in his fridge and he watered it there, i dunno
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I was trying to relay that the snake was in my care three days after it was purchased.
OH REALLY??? Not only did he say that once but said almost the same thing twice within a couple pages
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I was trying to convey the snake was in my care three days after her purchase
I thought the below qoute was cute to typical Adam trying to play both sides of the court.
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I place no fault in that post and I ask for nothing other then peoples thoughts on the topic at hand.
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I would feel as if the deal was made right by replacing that Albino with a het Albino.

Yup Adam you have proven Richie to be a liar and blowing smoke up everyones butt once again LMAO!!!! Shame on you Ritchie you somehow managed to trip Adam in yet another lie and your the one who is blowing smoke. Oh good work by the way LOL
The below qoute was taken from an email Adam sent to Richie Lune.
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Also Ritchie, because I know you hate lier SO much and that whileyou're mistaken I'm a lier . I thought I would keep you from blowing any more smoke up anybodies ass
I posted this same post in both this and Adams currently running thread as it seems relavent to both. Howveer if Rich considers this off topic for one I apoligize. To me this seems to tie their relationship toghter and answer some questions about this whole scam.