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Wow, I just got done reading that entire thread. I can not believe Wes was banned for that. Webslave, this is sound off and you have said I can express my opinions here freely, I do hope that still stands.
Although I haven't talked to Wes in a while, except after reading the thread and writing this we are friends, I have just been out of the loop. On Dr. Owens I have emailed with a few times to understand some issues and find that there is nothing wrong with him, he is a person who seems nice enough, and has everyday problems like anyone else, which sometimes can sway how one feels from day to day. Or heartships which I will not get into as it was between he and I. Bottom line: We all have our bad hair days. I can not say if he is good or bad as a mod as I have not been reading as of late. But he does seem like a good person.
Rich I do not think by Wes calling Lucille "loosewheel" was what you think it was, they have talked in jest many times and he has called her that as a pet name as he does with most people he knows personally. Lucille, however, left that out. She also took first blow by calling him Wesley instead of Wes who he is known as on here. She knew full well he did not like that name or want it out. (makes me think of gaylord focker, he likes to be called greg) It was a vindictive personal attach. If she is honest as she says she will admit she was hurt by the fact that for months and months she has been trying to get him to be her friend, singing his praises yet he saw something in her he did not like and refused many times in private (some are saved Lucille, including your IMs to me about how you feel on Wes and want him as a "friend" and he chose not to. So the first punch was thrown by the mod herself. In fact, several times before Wes said loosewheel. I am sure Lucille you would not want that posted. You got your feelings hurt and lashed out at him and kept on until he lashed back. That is the truth.
I find it very sad that person things were brought public by her when they should not have been. I being perhaps a fool has confided in her against Wes' advice that something ain't right. I am taking a chance and prepared to answer back should Lucille do to me what she did to Wes and talk personal.
Wes is brash, hardcore, opinionated to a fault at times BUT he was also very devoted to fauna, who else would pay those kind of fines and still pay to stay on fauna BOI? That is loyalty, something he is.
I implore fauna to rethink this. Hell, Neil came back twice. Wes has a knack of getting things out, just like the great ferret did.
When this thread came out, as I was reading the other thread low and behold Lucille IM'ed me, I asked specific questions that were not answered outright, just that it was too complicated. She did not know Wes' full name and Wes did not and would not tell her, she found out from other sources and used it to her advantage, and I must say vindictiveness. Something akin to a woman scorned......
I know Rich you say you stick by your mods, I respect that, and have met you and your wife and like both of you. In this case I am asking to think about. Mods are human too. That is the behind story of the truth,and if Lucille is truthful she will come on here and say that it was a pet name between them, she also had one for him.
I want to see the Lucille I thought I knew.
This was not a slap to Rich, and you know it. Wes has respect for Rich, that I know.
Lucille, he may not have called you friend as that is a term that should not be loosely used, but he did help you and IM with you when you needed him to. Be honest to yourself and here.
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