PatBugs

Okay, but since we can't post a book here, logically everything we're posting is on the internet somewhere. Simply being on the internet doesn't make a source inherently inherently unreliable - reliability comes from the actual source. Like I said, I'm open to reliable sources that say there's some problem we're not being told about (like a respected international group of scientists in the link I posted).

I also want to point something else out - the issue of leaving waste is largely contained already. The article you posted hints at this, and explains that the so-called "ice wall" is designed to keep water out of the power plant, not to keep it in.

FWIW, here's an interesting article that covers the other side of the story: http://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/...it-should-work

Fair enough. I more-so just meant not Greenpeace and not Exxon-Mobile's in-house scientific unit. A scientific body of national or international standing and not just one person, one study, or a bunch of out of context quotes and data.

But it's actually not about facts... it's about one person, and their experience with a company. Indeed, the agri-business has a lot to gain by pointing to other causes of colony collapse disorder, but there's also plenty of legitimate data that says other factors are at least present (mites, fungus, viruses and other pathogens, climate change, etc).

All that aside, this proves that even when corporations try to hide problems, they tend to find their way to light. There's a mountain of peer-reviewed data out there that says pesticides play at least some part, though there's no scientific consensus on anything beyond CCD being the result of a variety of factors. That includes government, independent and corporate scientific groups.

Here are a couple articles that look at much or all of the available research to try to reach conclusions:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...201000075/full
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...2664.12112/pdf
http://link.springer.com/article/10....393-013-0870-2

Here's an article from the same seems to indicate it is pesticides:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...77343513000493

And another that links any of 9 pesticides/fungicides to one specific parasite:

http://qz.com/107970/scientists-disc...n-you-thought/

And finally one that thinks it's the mites:

http://www.apidologie.org/articles/a.../03/m09176.pdf

I guess my point is that while this is a complex issue, it's highly unlikely that some evil corporate giant (or some other shadow-entity) is hiding the truth, because there are simply too many people looking for it. The worst thing we could do with this, nuclear power, climate change or anything else is assume the answer is whatever is most comfortable, because then we're only making the problem worse.

Cheers