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Old 04-12-2012, 09:38 PM   #250
crotalusadamanteus
Some things didn't seem right when I browsed this last night, so I came back to read again. These two statements alone stand out to me more then any of the back and forth accusations in the whole thread...

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Originally Posted by Robert Potts View Post
Kevin was part of the crime from the beginning. Because of this there is small doubt that my packing is responsible for the boas death. Andrew
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Originally Posted by Robert Potts View Post
Shadow there was two heat packs. Andrew
As has been pointed out Mr Potts, You sent a Boa, from a warm environment, to a warm environment, and through your own admission, you added two heat packs? Come on man. I know you're trying to sell people on how "un-smart" you are, but this is borderline retarded. And you even admit that there is "small doubt" that your packaging is responsible. Where I come from, that is as good as saying. "you're right, it was my fault", and yet you refuse to refund their money? You messed up, now MAN up and pay them back.

All the BS emails aside, you have no right to keep their money. Issue a refund, and then see an attorney for the libel case against them. That is the RIGHT thing to do. You admitted it was your fault in your own posts. Receiving blackmail threats is not legal basis for you to refuse a refund given the circumstances.

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Originally Posted by Robert Potts View Post
Kevin is as much a criminal as the other two. There's still a chance that the boa arrived alive. The difference is my reputation and the reputation of obvious criminals. I'll go with those who are honest versus those who are dishonest. Andrew
I'm curious about this "reputation" you speak of? Only reputation I know of you having, is you popping into threads, and creating a raucous. Reputations mean nothing in reality. A reputation is simply others opinions. People are easily fooled sometimes. Judging by all you've said in this thread, you ought to be more concerned with your CHARACTER, which obviously has some flaws, which you let slip out for all the reptile world to see.

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Originally Posted by bigdogg View Post
Now see Luis I don't know if you know Bob or Andrew but they have many litters of these Aztec mutations. Im sure they have another that look just as good. I again don't want to stick up for bob and andrew. They are good guys in my book and still will be after this goes whichever way. As I don't agree with how whoever actually bought this animal dealt with it at all. Slander to a business is nothing to mess around with.

With the replacement thing it all depends on how bob and andy's tos is stated. In my personal T.O.S I state that there are no cash refunds. Andrew can simply give them 4600 dollars credit toward the next purchase of an animal which is what I would do in this case. If they don't want to use it that is up to them. But again just my point of view. Both parties are in the wrong here. Not just andrew and not just the op.

By the look of the snake in the pictures. You should have been able to smell the death coming from that box when he got it. Therefore if you smell death record every single step of opening that package. I would have even had the fedex guy standing there to watch me open it. That way there is tons of proof of DOA. Then contact the seller and go from there. Lots of things should have happened differently but they didn't. It is up to Andrew and the OP to settle this now. Whether it goes to court or a simple talk on the telephone. Either way should be settled
So after receiving one animal dead, due to improper packaging, and improper shipping method, you think it right they take a chance on another animal being shipped to them the same way, and arriving possibly in the same condition? Nah,I think a full refund is warranted, regardless of how immature Kevins cohorts acted. I've had animals go on a 3 day tour of the US, from hot area, to freezing Ohio warehouse, then back to the hot environment it was supposed to go to in the first place, all because of the carriers error, and the animal arrived live and healthy. Just shows what proper packaging can accomplish.

BTW, not that it matter much anymore, since I'm pretty much out of this industry. But my TOS says money back, OR animal of equal value. In the case of DOA, I do ask the animal be shipped back in the same manner which I shipped it, and at the buyers expense, before i refund. But since there is PROOF that FedEx destroyed the package, then exceptions have to be made on Mr Potts's behalf. The attempt was made to return the animal, and the shipper should not be held responsible for the carriers mistake.

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Originally Posted by Designerboa View Post
Andrew Potts....... Every post in this thread is adding more content for the search engines....You are not doing yourself, Bob Potts or your Aztec project any good....... 4,600 is a small price to pay to make this go away without doing anymore harm.

My 0.2
And there it is Mr Potts. Are you really willing to sell out your "good reputation" for a few thousand dollars? If so, maybe there is some truth to your claims of just how smart you really aren't.

Do what's right Mr Potts, and give Kevin back his money. This all goes away, it shows you doing the right thing in the end, and maybe even gets some of your future animals sold. Seems real simple to me. No smarts needed at all.