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Originally Posted by Griz
Let me add one brief comment to this. I do not want anyone here to think I am sitting back in my cushioned office chair and judging you. Truth be told, when I assess who I call friends and who I do not, there is a lot more to a decision then this one simple subject. I respect most all of you for various reasons, most of which is due to the input you have made on so many posts in years past.
I do not want anyone to walk away from this thread thinking that Griz, he's such a such and such. I believe pornography is wrong and that it ruins lives. Plain and simple. You guys obviously have other feelings towards this. What I want is for each of you to intellectually think through the pornography issue, study the statistics, and it is my hope that you will come away rather perplexed at how large of an issue it really is.
Shanti enjoys some porn in her life. So be it. But, it's the pathway that pornography leads us down and the millions of lives it has affected that I want you to be aware of. Do not stick your head in the sand or simply walk away from the thread because you feel like your points are not getting through. I am hearing your points but they are emotional points not logical one's.
Anyways, if nothing else, I hope this has led to some additional insights.
Griz
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LOL Running myself into brick walls is an activity I avoid. I know there are people out there that hear and agree with my side, just as there are people that agree with you.
Nothing in my point of view of porn has changed in at least 10 years. I'm not going to suddenly change it one morning 6 months from now.
Sometimes the way you feel is more important than what logic and "fact" say. Had I followed logic, and not my heart, I likely never would have even dated my husband (long story there) - and that's not a decision I would take back for the world.
I, myself, am a rather complicated person...I can't even figure myself out sometimes...mostly because I don't always follow the logical path (but sometimes I do). I met and dated my husband online - but I caution other who are thinking of doing the same. I have only "been" with my husband, where as he and many of my friends have been around the block more times than they can count, and I don't think any less of them. I don't drink (not only because I'm currently pregnant) because it makes me sick (literally); when I was able to drink and not get sick I RARELY did it because I didn't like to feel "different"...but again I have no problems with anyone that does. I watch porn about as often as I drink, it's rare and I find enjoyment in it, but it's down right dull to see it all the time. I've never once smoked, or done any sort of drug - for very similar reasons that you have...but many people I know have done them in the past and they are still my friends (I tend not to hang out with those that are currently involved with either on a regular basis). In short, the reasons I do or don't do something are very personal choices (and rarely, if ever, because some study says it's bad), and I don't begrudge others that same choice.
We're not so different Griz, just our paths and reasons. Both are valid. It's just a bit insulting to say age and lack of knowledge have anything to do with how I feel. I'm sure that the way you feel is how you've felt for years, why would it be any different for me? Because I haven't been around as long? These choices I made for my life were done YEARS ago, so long ago I can't even recall when (and if) I ever felt differently. While a lot of people don't know who they are and run around lost for their teens and a lot of their twenties, I was never that person. I do see a disturbing trend in my views of teenagers...when the heck did they get so young and annoying?
So in away I do know where you're coming from there.....doesn't mean I like it any better.