thanks for the help guys. any other HTML teaching sites that are more geared towards getting a whole page done instead of one line? I've known the basics (links, pics, etc.) but really want to know how to creat buttons, nav bars, tables, and those neat whitish frames for text. Thehypogecko's site looks like exactly what i am trying to go for. Beautiful! If i can't catch on well enough i might just have to pay you write me the original pages and i'll learn editing. (editing is easier than creating from scratch
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