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Old 05-05-2012, 05:39 PM   #94
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Originally Posted by bullies&balls
Sorry, but if the animal WAS QT and put into breeding program NEXT season, it is MOST likely that said animal would have died the same way.
Do you understand the concept of a cumulative effect? Going directly from shipping to breeding compounds the initial stress greatly. There was no acclimation period whatsoever. I believe, as well as many others, that the exact opposite of your statement is more logical and likely to be the reality of the situation. If QT was practiced, there's an extremely high likelihood that the animal would still be alive. Both right now, and next breeding season.

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Originally Posted by bullies&balls
MOST old timers KNOW that once an animal gets ill, the chance for a repeat illness is GREATLY increased and many feel the animal NEVER truely shakes the illness
Feel free to point out ANY evidence that shows there was a pre-existing illness. According to what Google tells me, the most serious issues shown in the vet report can be laid squarely at the feet of the toxins produced from the Salmonella infection. An active INFECTION, not the mere fact that Salmonella was present at all.

There's nothing to show that the ulcers were there before the snake was shipped. Based on what evidence we have here, the Salmonella (which harmlessly resides in the GI tracts of MANY reptiles) infected the ulcers that were found. Whether the ulcers came first, and the Salmonella took advantage of the opening, or whether the weakened immune system, that the stress caused, allowed the Salmonella to actually cause the ulcers, it still seems to boil down to one thing: stress-induced illness.

Out of all parties involved, who's freely admitted to putting it in the most stressful situations..?

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Originally Posted by bullies&balls
disect this all you want, ask who this deal invloves all you want and blame it on poor QT practices all you want. the snake DIED in 10 days !!!!
You're doing nothing more than harping on the effect in order to try to produce an emotional response that'll cloud the real issue: The most likely cause. You're going out of your way to treat the cause in the most dismissive manner possible. Let's all get worked up over the fact that it died quickly and not really examine exactly why it happened.