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yeah, again in the 70's I used to see tons of them in the Irish Hills Mich. area, predominantly in the Onsted State game area, my family had a cottage on a lake near there for over 40 years and as a young man I was seeing them quite often, and I still get up there regularly fishing and in some of the same areas where I used to find them, on another note however the brown (NOrthern) Water snake is still very abundant there..
Marshall P..
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