jason ,
ok im here ... now i will ask you this as i recall it when Dale was found to be the person that sold Bill the snakes with IBD did he not get raked over the coals? yes he did . Ok now why would one person that sold IBD to another that sold the same IBD to yet another desreve any better? ok yes bill offerd new snakes .But me personally i would have been nice and just asked for my $ to be refunded for the amount of the snakes plus the amount of the vets tests to determine that it infact was IBD. Ok Now on the note of Dale , if i remeber correctly people calledfor dale to resume selling snakes i think thats what i saw in the many IBD threads that were out at the time .I cant speak for how some people were taught / raised but i was always told only you can be responsible for your actions and no one else .In this case im reffering to the fact that Dale did what was asked as far as i have seen and that was to stop selling snakes due to the IBD issues .So why would that put Bill on any higher standard to not heed the same , no one as i recalled it asked him to "go out of buisness butto simply put a disclaimer on his adds and possibly hold off for a while on selling ... snakes till everything could be sorted out .. did he .NO he kept right on advertising his "screamers" for sale and acting like he never had IBD in his place , now i will admit before this all came out i had even thought of saving a lil cash and maybe even getting one of his "screamers" but after the #### hitthe fan i decided i would do the wise thing and sit on it and see what played out .Now i am not in any clicks , bandwagons or anything to that matter i am simply me i take no leads from anyone else and dont expect anyone to take leads from me . To me it just seems regardless of the BS bill has tolisten to he thinks he is so much better then the rest of us , granted i dont sell any number of " high class snakes" each week or even each month im just a small timer in the world of others, if i was to have sold someone a snake with IBD i know i would have ceased all sales regardless of what the cause to do so i would have done it out of respect fot fellow snakes buyers / owners & collectors. I have made this statement once and will again when asked how bill did his quarintine he said in his own words none of the snakes that had IBD were around the ones he bred or sold or his own "prized collection" ok well thats a good answer UNTILL he told chris that all his snakes were inthe same building??? ok what i see in this is either someone who lied ? someone who got the story confused or someone who didnt care ? Now as to saying none of his snakes have mites <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> i think thats a strtch .. mites are very hard to see now it only tales a very few to go along way ? i dont care if his building is 400 sf or 40000 sf i think he owed it to potential customers to make them aware of what he was/is dealing with to let them make a totally informed descision. now with that i mean this ok say you inquire of a snake from Joe blow and John does has a snake but his name isnt as poplular as Joe blows butthe snake looks just as nice and is probably less expensive. ok if you planned on buying this type snake would you go to the guy that had a more popular name and buy cause he has all the catch phrases like "screamer" and all but he didnt tell you that he is or had just dealt with a deal where he obtained snakes that were IBD postive and that even though the snakes were in the same building but apart fromone another would you still buy that same snake from him ? or if you called John doe and had the same looking snake and asked him hey i just talke with Joe Blow and he has this awsome snake but he told me he had IBD at his place ,,, have you ever had any snakes with IBD? and the answer is no .. who would you give your money to ?i think that there is kinda a given .. well to me it would be IMO i think Bill has done everything to sway blame and attention away from the fact that no matter where it came from he hadIBD and his name was dirtied with a lil mud but instead of informing possible buyers he chooses to chastise all of the herp world and be little us into thinking were idiots and ruing a place like this ? well i wont and dont buy that for a sec . In my books Bill is no better then any of us and with that i can say i for one know hes no better then me ... because as of now ... guess what!! i dont have IBD on my name ? not saying i wont or i cant have itthere one day as i know all it takes is for the moon and the starts to line up right and BLAM anyone can have it , but having it is the easy part how you handle it when you have it is the hard part