Almost ALL of my finds of the Glass Lizard species of our state has been on roadways ! Where are you hunting exactly to find those Black Rats ? This species is almost at the end of their range of distribution out here as the Prairie King. Knowing that, I wonder why no one, including myself, has found what could be a cross or intergrade of Black Rat and Emoryi ? I mean look at the Milk Snake out here, It is believed that with the overlapping of Gentilis and Syspila and believed Gentilis is and has been intergrading with Syspila by distribution range farther and farther east, it is assumed to be in the most eastern parts of Kansas and even possibly in some western parts of Missouri now. BUT this would be possibly a huge percentile of intergrades breeding intergrades. More > Another theory has been touched on that with the all years of decades or even more, that maybe there is almost no true/pure strains of Syspila true or very little, left out here. I know that there ARE counties like Leavenworth, Wyandotte, Miami, Linn, possibly Franklin ( to name a few ) and spots like the sought after milks of Perry Lake that true/pure milks can be found and counties south eastern Kansas included, but even some of the Perry Lake individuals are looking intergrade. Make me want to get some of you guys together to make a western run for true Gentilis instead of Flint Hills hunting so we know there is no integration going on ! LOL !
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Originally Posted by sppeavy
Wow, rocks were no good with so much rain, but Junk and tin spots were insane! I really need to get a link for my digital camera so I can share. I havent found the numbers of kings and milks that Oldguy has, but I did count 273 Ringnecks in one tin site, and flipped a car hood to find 5 Adult Black Ratsnakes under it. 3 males and 2 females. I also found 6 Brown snakes, and 13 linned snakes. Also found 5 basking banded waters in thier usual spots, but very hard to catch. Red-sided garters were abundant as well. I met the owners of Rooks Ranch out in Wabansee Kansas, and got permission for this weekend to herp their acres of land. Thats this weekends plan. There is hills and hills of limbstone to flip,so im excited. Oldguy, and any others, you are welcome to join. Ill show you guys a few good tin areas before they are gone. Somebody has been out taking my tin. Its been there for years, and now its dissapearing one peice at a time. Its right by a water snake spot and collard lizard zone. The Rooks ranch hills are all south and west facing hills, so it looks good to me. I did find another area that is prime, but im having trouble finding the owner of the land. Its miles and miles of valleys full of flippable stones. Oh, and on the road I though I saw a snake, but when I jumped out, it was a Glass lizard. Very cool and fun to find. It was in perfect condition. Well, I talk to much, Later all.
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