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Old 01-18-2010, 03:23 PM   #3
rusticreptiles
These are pertaining more to the current situation and lack of communication. I just wanted to include everything...I am an honest person and won't deny my errors in this matter (such as throwing out the packaging the snakes came in before the URI surfaced).

Sent 1/17/09
Hello Ed,


I still have not heard back from you on how you plan to rectify this situation.



I'm alerting you now that I will be posting our dealings on fauna classifieds BOI, I know you are familiar with it.

I also will be going to the court house on tuesday morning to file paperwork for small claims court.

I do not appreciate being put in this situation or the lack of attention you have shown me in resolving this matter.

You were attentive to my emails before this situation and for that I thank you, I do hope that your silence means you are working on a resolution that will appease us both.



I have another vet visit in the morning and will be having them confirm the gender of the other snake shipped to me as well.



Please get back to me as soon as possible and let's save both of us a lot of headache.


Nicole


Sent 1/16
Hello again Ed.

I would appreciate you letting me know how you plan to proceed in this situation. I had a female cooling in anticipation of this "male". If you are going to refund me, I would appreciate this asap so that I can try to acquire a male ready for this season.

If you are planning on replacing this animal, please let me know exactly how you plan to do this. I do not want this to drag out for weeks, I want his done and behind me as it has caused a lot of stress and inconvenience to me and my family.

Just one other question. If a fecal exam is something that should be done when keeping and receiving new reptiles, why did YOU not have this animal tested while it was in your posession? If parasites had been the ONLY thing wrong with this animal, you never would have heard from me as I do understand parasites can occur with any animal.

I await your reply,
Nicole


Hi Nicole, I used 40 hour heat packs in the box that I sent to you not hand warmers. look in the box and you will find the heat pack wrappers.

I will exchange the BP if indeed it was missexed. if you deciede to keep it after you are finished treating it we can work something out. internal parasites can be introduced to a Bp many ways including feeding rodents.fecal exams are a regular precaution when keeping and recieving new snakes. keep me posted Ed

--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Nicole Belval <nicolebelval@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Nicole Belval <nicolebelval@yahoo.com>
Subject: UPDATE: Re: Message about: Captive Bred Black Pastel.
To: "Ed Clark" <cmrcpythons@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 4:31 PM


Hello Ed,





There has been a lot to take in this week in regard to the male black pastel.



The black pastel went to the vet on Monday. He has a URI. The vet prescribed antibiotics as you suspected he would. We are to go back in every 3 days for 4 more injections (the first was given yesterday). The costs associated with the visits will total approximately $$520 – I have a receipt thus far for the money I spent Monday and today and have attached those receipts. Total as of today $236.20 and we still have 2-3 more visits to go.



We also ran a fecal and it was positive for intestinal parasites. You can see this on the receipts and records.



I am not happy about this situation and feel that it could have been avoided regardless of how the shipping company treated the package. It is not the shipping companies responsibility to know or care what is in each box regardless of labeling and warnings when shipping. It is the responsibility of the shipping party to take proper precautions with a live animal shipment. In this instance accounting for proper warmth and duration of travel were top priority. I cannot fathom that 2 hand warmers were going to sufficiently keep 2 ball pythons warm as they were dropped at a FEDEX shipping building/warehouse that aren’t normally heated, then traveled either by freight or air overnight unheated again. Not to mention the destination point warehouse and then delivery truck. The hand warmers last max 8 to 12 hours and slowly lose their oomph as things go. There are other more industrial ones and I am wondering why that type wasn’t chosen as the temps in NJ aren’t much milder than here and we had talked about the arrival point temp. In speaking with other breeders they would have chosen a 40 hour heat pack and would also have waited for less severe lows before shipping.



A real surprise was to find out that the male was in fact a female…I had my suspicion when he arrived, but my vet seconded my thought and then probing confirmed our suspicions. I know that you guarantee the sex of your animals for 30 days. This is a real issue for me as I planned on pairing this male with a female for this season. That was my purpose for purchasing him.

Now, even if he was healthy, this snake would be useless to me this season. Now I am out a male along with a lot of money in nursing him back to health only to find out now that I have a huge investment into another female.



At this point I feel that there should be some form of compensation for the cost of the vet bills as well as a substitute animal for the missexing as stated in your ads. This is not a situation that had to happen and I thank God that the other snake has pulled through thus far. I will also be taking a fecal of this snake in and sexing her myself and have the vet double check.



Please let me know how we can rectify this situation so that we can continue an amicable and professional relationship. I look forward to hearing from you.





Thank you,

Nicole



Let me know how it goes he probably needs some antibiotics to straighten him out.
if that what the vet deceides.

--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Nicole Belval <nicolebelval@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Nicole Belval <nicolebelval@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Message about: Captive Bred Black Pastel.
To: "Ed Clark" <cmrcpythons@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 1:10 PM


Hey Ed,

Just wanted to update you. Both snakes have eaten, the female seems fine, but the male is now wheezing. I've bumped up his heat even more and if not improved by Monday morning I'll be bringing him into the vet.
Sigh...I hate that this happened because of poor shipping (ie. FEDEX). Poor boy.

Nicole

The sad thing is that fedex is the best service out there right now, keep them warm and dont feed for 4-5 days. they can handle a short cool down with no problems if its not an extended cold. let me know if you have any problems with them. both are strong feeders. Ed

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Nicole Belval <nicolebelval@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Nicole Belval <nicolebelval@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Message about: Captive Bred Black Pastel.
To: "Ed Clark" <cmrcpythons@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 12:44 PM


Hi Ed,

They arrived, barely alive, but they are here. The stupid fedex driver carried them up to me sideways, and I mentioned that there are arrows pointing up for a reason and that there were live animals inside. He then says, oh, I guess I should have had them in the front instead of by the door. Unpacked and they were ice cold, limp and lifeless. Thought for sure they were gone, I put them on hot water bottles just to be sure, and I've got movement, so I'm hoping that they will turn out okay, but wanted to know if you had any suggestions as to care since they arrived so cold. Obviously I'm going to keep them extra warm and not feed right away, or handle, but didn't know if anything else should be done to help them stay healthy?

Thanks again and I could just strangle that man!

Nicole