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Old 05-31-2006, 10:42 AM   #35
Griz
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Originally Posted by nicolai
Wow!!! And I thought i was going to be the solo voice of reason here.
Oh no Nicolai, that designation is mine.

The problem some of you are having is that you are using emotions to justify your stance. For instance:

"Pornography is ok because it makes me feel good."
"Pornography is ok because it can be a marital aid."
"Pornography is ok because it's consenting adults."
"Pornography is ok because who are we to judge."
"Pornography is ok because it is not MY daughter."

Those are the reasoning’s you are giving to justify your stances? It's ok because it makes me feel good. What kind of stance is that?

Do you not see the hypocrisy? Pornography is not something you want your children to be involved in yet you see nothing wrong with it? If you see nothing wrong with it then why in the world don't you want your daughters involved in it? What's good for the goose..............

As for sexual deviancy, the implication of pornography is the desensitizing of the viewer. You are flat our lying to yourself (comment more towards the men) if you tell yourself that watching mild pornography does not lead to more extreme forms. The statistics are irrefutable people. Even the porn industry recognizes this fact hence the reason for the "other" links on their pages. It is this pathway to harder pornography that pushes some people over the edge. They no longer view a woman as something to be admired. They view them as objects, objects of their sick minds. These people do not know the difference between the big screen and reality. Therefore, according to their perverse logic, all women must like to be "gang raped" etc. Did these individuals already have the propensity towards violence? I would say yes but a combination of pornography and societal issues pushes them over the edge. Pornography is part and parcel to their habits. ZX11, show me any conclusive study that says to the contrary. You can't despite your paragraph stating you can.

But, the above paragraph is not really the topic here at hand as I pray none of you fall into that category. So, the real issue here is why is watching porn wrong for the average American? Let me point out a few issues:

1) Pornography feeds lust of the eyes and lust of the flesh, which are never satisfied. This is why some of you are already experiencing husbands/boyfriends who promise to "give it up" but somehow are mysteriously drawn back to it.

2) Pornography sexualizes the viewer's mindset. It is desensitizing you.

3) Pornography promotes destructive practices and can lead to progressive addiction. Why do you think that most porn sites have links to other darker fetishes? Pornography is an addiction. Plain and simple.

4) Pornography intensifies an individual's drive to serve oneself, rather than serve others. Do you really think your husband is not focusing on himself when he watches porn? You have to be kidding yourself if you think the only time he ever watches porn is when you are with him. That's why it's call self-gratification.

5) Pornography addiction can lead to debt. As I said above, it's an addiction and in order to feed that addiction you have to spend money. Again, look at some of the websites and see what the motivation is behind the organizers.

6) Pornography changes your reality. For instance:

# Sexual freedom = happiness
# Perverted sex (incest, BDSM, etc) is more enjoyable than "normal" heterosexual sex
# There are no consequences to sexual promiscuity
# Sexual expression is a right, not a God-given or God-defined gift
# You can live a healthy life with the porn images floating around in your mind
# Porn doesn't harm anyone
# Sex is something to be done primarily for self-gratification
# The porn stars are the happiest people on earth
# Adults can view porn without any lasting side effects
# Porn will help your sex life
# Porn is just a harmless thing that everybody looks at

And from the sound of some of your arguments, some of the above "realities" are coming true...

I would encourage you to ask yourself this question. What's wrong with your own sex life that you require others to fulfill it for you? What's wrong with your own relationship that requires other individuals to perform sex acts in front of you just so that your own motor can get running?

The ONLY reason why some of you feel like justifying your stance is because you do not want to admit that your relationships have problems. Before replying to this comment why don't you sit back and truly think this through before responding. What is the root reason why you feel like your relationship needs pornography? Why do you think it is ok to "spank the monkey" to someone else's daughter but yet you have "higher expectations" for your own? Why do you think it's ok to be a "devote orthodox" but yet fail to follow one of the Ten Commandments in not coveting your neighbor’s wife? Any reason you give is riddled with hypocritical holes. You know it and so do I. The only difference is that I see pornography for what it is while you are defending it for what you wish it could be.......harmless.

Griz