Fire and Ice Dragons (Terri Sommella)

If you read her response, the clutch is not up to size. I did just send her an email requesting pictures and current status.

She keeps going back and forth from weather to size being the issue.

I guess I opened this thread as I feel as though I am getting the run around. I am stepping into the breeding ring after doing tons of research and a huge investment of time and money.

Again my issue isnt with the shipping. I absolutely do not want her to ship me a dragon only to have the animal arrive dead. I will wait patiently for the weather but I think there is more at play than just the temp.

Originally Posted by shinezilla

Tom,

His concern is to why is a dragon that hatched out in June rounding up to 6" in an 8wk. time frame. He stated that he requested for a refund because of the possibility of something health related problems with the "stalling"/waiting involved.

And why quote me when I'm only generally speaking? I was simply stating that it's common for babies to reach that size in the given time frame.

If Josh finds out she's stalling or she completely bamboozled him out of his money, I'm sure he'll let everyone on here know.

Josh, talk to Terry... Find out what's going on then post your findings.

Shine,

i dont know if you have read this whole thing, BUT the op is getting multiple excuses as to why he doesnt have his dragon at the moment. I dont know if your personally a friend of hers. But you seem to be making excuses for her!!!

If 2 months is common for a dragon to get to 6 inches you may want to re-invest in new breeders. unless your breeding dwarfs or rankins "lawson" dragons.

* No pics because of consistent shedding.

* working around heat. How long is that going to go on for??? I ship from 25 degrees f. to 104 (as a high). I do understand shipping conditions in exteme conditions

*Needs 8 weeks to get 6 inches.

* 2 separate incubators so its a 10 day difference. then one incubator had to have been running at 5-6 degree difference to get a 10 day delay in hatching. I have tested this.

These are multiple reasons as to why he doesnt have the animal. If she said bad weather and stuck with it fine! but she did not. If she sent pics that would also be fine. she said she likes two sheds under the dragons belt before she sells. but then she says "there "ALWAYS" in shed." So is that not a conflicting statement? There's to many reasons here. and it sounds like a run around. thats all i am saying.

yeah I have to agree with dragonluver83 that sounds like some major to me.

This entire thread is a pure testament to why you should NEVER pay for something before it hatches. I detest the practice of selling eggs personally (which is what you did you purchased an egg and a guarantee of color that the breeder could not possibly be 100% certain they will follow through with)

You are in a position of having to sit and wait. I do not think this deserved a bad guy thread, at least not yet.

Originally Posted by joshjtd

She followed up by telling me that it would be another 4 weeks before the dragons would be the correct weight and size for shipping.

Can you post the email here where she stated that it would be 4 more weeks before your animal would be big enough to ship? Thanks!

Originally Posted by spyder79

This entire thread is a pure testament to why you should NEVER pay for something before it hatches. I detest the practice of selling eggs personally (which is what you did you purchased an egg and a guarantee of color that the breeder could not possibly be 100% certain they will follow through with)

You are in a position of having to sit and wait. I do not think this deserved a bad guy thread, at least not yet.

how do you buy something that the breeder doesnt even have yet?

I'll also add right now, i have had RED breeders only produce YELLOW babies. how many ppl would be upset if they bought a baby from a red breeder and it came to them yellow. What if she lost power and lost the clutch of eggs that you purchased a baby from. You think she has that 375 you gave her a month and a half ago???
Surprisingly there are alot of people who will be more than willing to pay up front or put a deposit on babies that havent even hatched yet. Thats kinda dumb on the buyer and sellers part. You cannot guarantee anything until time of sale!!! Thats a Guarantee!!!

Originally Posted by dragonluver83

how do you buy something that the breeder doesnt even have yet?

I'll also add right now, i have had RED breeders only produce YELLOW babies. how many ppl would be upset if they bought a baby from a red breeder and it came to them yellow. What if she lost power and lost the clutch of eggs that you purchased a baby from. You think she has that 375 you gave her a month and a half ago???
Surprisingly there are alot of people who will be more than willing to pay up front or put a deposit on babies that havent even hatched yet. Thats kinda dumb on the buyer and sellers part. You cannot guarantee anything until time of sale!!! Thats a Guarantee!!!

I will concede that it was stupid on my part to pay for something was not yet here. I do not plan on selling my babies that way but talking to her, that was how she does all of her clutches.

As far as where she said it would be another 4 weeks, that part should be posted already.

Originally Posted by spyder79

This entire thread is a pure testament to why you should NEVER pay for something before it hatches. I detest the practice of selling eggs personally (which is what you did you purchased an egg and a guarantee of color that the breeder could not possibly be 100% certain they will follow through with)

You are in a position of having to sit and wait. I do not think this deserved a bad guy thread, at least not yet.

I agree with you here Brian.