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Old 10-03-2010, 03:03 PM   #11
Southern Wolf
in actuality... not a whole lot. Sure the reptile community could vote against anyone in office to try and get them fired... but the reptile community is small compaired to the whole.

Now that the law has passed in FL... I don't see it being undone.
 
Old 10-03-2010, 03:07 PM   #12
zgoldsmith23
I really don't understand it. I wouldn't mind a permit system (not super strict) if it meant I could keep my snakes. I really don't see why they outlawed retics, it's not like there is an outbreak in FL. Do they not realize the snakes are not really thriving in FL winters? They cannot move any place else really. I've read reports that say they are worried "they could evolve and get used to the colder weather" ... I'm no genius but I don't think evolution happens quickly and I highly doubt a snake could function at 60 degrees.

Aquarists, Hepetoculturalists, and other exotic keepers, all have to band together.
 
Old 10-03-2010, 03:28 PM   #13
rcpreis3
Im not gonna pay $10,000 a year buying snakes and thier supplies plus the tax on them, AND pay our useless government just to have the RIGHT to own them. In case no one knows domestic cats are not native to the americas, yet they allow them here with no laws and fines u have to pay, and strays breed continuely in our neighborhoods, when are they gonna worry about the REAL destructive species. And in fact the only dog that is native to the North American continent is the american wolf. Its just that people think herps are "slimy and creepy" and they dont want to see those "icky" creatures. And they are so intolerant they dont want to be educated. Whats so wrong with a snake that sleeps quietly in their tank most of theirs lives? Versus the dog that gets out and attacks ur neighbor, or the bird that squaks endlessy through the night in the apartment upstairs. I hate people...
 
Old 10-03-2010, 03:36 PM   #14
timebider
Oh, WOW....my first thought is, this is the worst news for those folks who have huge, really nice reptile facilities (including some legally taken, permitted wild Everglades pythons - think Greg Graziani). What kinds of provisions are in place for educational and research facilities? I guess this pretty much means any newly captured pythons must be destroyed? Unreal. On my way to go register with/donate to USARK...
 
Old 10-03-2010, 03:38 PM   #15
zgoldsmith23
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On my way to go register with/donate to USARK...
Very good. Everybody should. Every little bit helps.
 
Old 10-03-2010, 04:04 PM   #16
rcpreis3
USARK. nice thought, but too much talking and too little action.
 
Old 10-03-2010, 04:20 PM   #17
rcpreis3
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Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
I really don't understand it. I wouldn't mind a permit system (not super strict) if it meant I could keep my snakes.
it is super strict tho. there is no oops i forgot to register or what not. Their is no second chance, u dont present paper work they take the animal is taken right there, or even destroy them right there in ur home. They wont publicize this but ive seen it happen. A snake I grew up with was drug outta my buddies like it had no meaning to life. Dead. And do u know what his neighbors said? OMG that thing coulda killed my child, he has no right to own that... have no right to own an animal. People scream about their rights and want things their way with no regards to others rights. Seriously I hate this country
 
Old 10-04-2010, 03:21 AM   #18
Heart4Dragonz
Wow, red eared sliders? REALLY?? I'm 90% sure I've still seen them being sold in pet stores..
 
Old 10-04-2010, 04:20 AM   #19
rcpreis3
Yup cuz turtles arent as scary as snakes. I see them at the flea market all the time... I dont really go into a pet stores as I usally wont come out empty handed. Actually it says u can have them as long as u meet specific cage instructions, and destroy their eggs. Its really sad as those are the ones who are released most often and do the most damage. Yea the snakes are big, but cranes eat the young ones and I'm sure gators eat them as well. And I think the media is blowin up this whole population theory, probably less then 10,000 surviving in the Glades. Not anthing like the 100,000 they're randomly pullin out there . The turtles are gonna breed out another species and create a new species. Maybe its just me but I see that as being more destructive to the balance of the ecosystem.
 

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