AFT & Leo mix

Originally Posted by annmikeal

The reasoning behind why nothing stays alive or that the eggs are generally not fertile is that they are from different genus... AFT = Hemithoconyx and Leos = Eublepharis...

duhhhhhhhh.... I knew that but for some reason didn't even cross my mind. You are absolutly correct. My example was not even close.

Thank you

Originally Posted by rjarosek

chahoua/crested

ball/retic

ball/insert python here

it has been done and quite a bit.

Ball/Retic= Python regius x Python reticulatus

Ball/Insert Python Here = Python regius x Python sp.

Leopard Gecko x African fat-tailed Gecko = Eublepharis macularus x Hemitheconyx caudicinctus

Notice the difference? Leopards and fat-tails are in completely different genera, therefore they are only related at the family level (Eublepharidae). The more closely related an organism is to another, the more likely a hybrid will be viable. The more distantly related, the more likely that they do not share the same number of chromosomes, genes will be in different places, and offspring produced will either not survive to hatching or be infertile.

I know others have tried, and I have not heard any successes. Still, I would incubate out of curiosity's sake, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Originally Posted by snowgyre

Ball/Retic= Python regius x Python reticulatus

Ball/Insert Python Here = Python regius x Python sp.

Leopard Gecko x African fat-tailed Gecko = Eublepharis macularus x Hemitheconyx caudicinctus

Notice the difference? Leopards and fat-tails are in completely different genera, therefore they are only related at the family level (Eublepharidae). The more closely related an organism is to another, the more likely a hybrid will be viable. The more distantly related, the more likely that they do not share the same number of chromosomes, genes will be in different places, and offspring produced will either not survive to hatching or be infertile.

I know others have tried, and I have not heard any successes. Still, I would incubate out of curiosity's sake, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Are you asking if I noticed?? Did you not read my second post ???? brain shutdown.. :S

Nope, just sharing information that other people may not be aware of. Didn't mean to imply anything negative.

Originally Posted by snowgyre

Nope, just sharing information that other people may not be aware of. Didn't mean to imply anything negative.

lol I meant my brain shutdown. Wow this thread was a fail for myself. Long day especially this morning.

...but aren't corn snakes Elaphe and gopher snake Pituophis ?
You could breed them together.

Originally Posted by rjarosek

chahoua/crested

ball/retic

ball/insert python here

it has been done and quite a bit.

It has been done, but all these animals are fairly closely related.

Leo's and fat tails are not even remotely close genetically, so the chances of getting living hatchlings, or even fertile eggs, is as close to zero as you can get.

That being said, if/when she lays, keep them of course!! Cause who knows!!!

This Leopard female has laid eggs that appear to be fertile so far and the "color" is developing like normal eggs when I candle them. The only possible "father" is the AFT. They are in the incubator at 80F and we will see if they hatch. I have a small photo log of them and if they hatch I'll post photos from eggs to hatchlings.
It took her around 40 days to lay them after she bred with the AFT.

Thanks for everyone's input as you can tell the science side won and I want to see what happens.

Originally Posted by candace313

This Leopard female has laid eggs that appear to be fertile so far and the "color" is developing like normal eggs when I candle them. The only possible "father" is the AFT. They are in the incubator at 80F and we will see if they hatch. I have a small photo log of them and if they hatch I'll post photos from eggs to hatchlings.
It took her around 40 days to lay them after she bred with the AFT.

Thanks for everyone's input as you can tell the science side won and I want to see what happens.

I am very curious to see what comes out. Good luck with the eggs. Lets hope for something freakishly cool but still alive.