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02-22-2002, 09:04 PM
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Melissa....Call the number AGAIN, and LEAVE A VOICE MESSAGE explaining the situation! But...BE CAREFUL!! They will probably KEEP the tape, so DON'T say anything you might regret later! Ya know what I mean?? GOOD LUCK WITH THE VET!! ....Neil
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02-23-2002, 12:59 AM
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Mellisa-- Tell the site where the ad was posted of this and hopefully he won't be able to sell through them again!
For Jason---Let's pack your a$$ up in a cardboard box with a little paper around you and stick you in the mail for a few days and see what happens!! Hopefully you'd get a bit cold, hungry, and abused! Stick to being the kid that you are and save a few animals!!
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02-23-2002, 01:08 AM
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#13
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ONCE AGAIN HE IS A SELLER ON KINGSNAKE.COM.....
HIS SCREEN NAME IS JAS1234321@AOL.com
I have yet to see where else he sells, i got his name off the reptile chat @ aol...
-Melissa vodofsky
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02-23-2002, 01:16 AM
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Go to the AOL chat and let people know what happened. Then go to Kingsnake.com and file a complaint. Hopefully some action will be taken! Good Luck!!
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02-23-2002, 08:51 AM
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It's obvious to me this guy and his whole family are trash. When I ship an animal it is MY responsibility to make every effort to ensure its safety and comfort. I don't care who paid for what! I ship via Airborne and instead of letting the truck pick up at my place I personally make a 25 minute trip to their office at the airport at 8:30 PM just half an hour before they close to make sure the animal is packaged an absolute minimum of time. Do I have to make this effort? Maybe not but I feel I've done my best to place the least amount of stress on the animal. I use at least two sometimes three 40 hr. heat packs depending on the size of the animal and box. Isn't arrival of a warm healthy animal key to the animal and the customers happiness? Forget any support from Paypal. They're a bunch of idiots with no clue or care about these types of issues. Not long ago I had an animal arrive "alive" that died within seven hours after arrival not long ago from so many ailments I don't want to get into it here. Paypal's response was "they don't guarantee the condition of items bought through their service." That was the extent of their "investigation". You might as well face reality here. You've been ripped off and in my case I don't have the time to pursue these types of cases but I have learned ways to avoid them and that's to use this board religiously and deal with known reputable dealers. Even then you'd be surprised with what I have to put up with. A few days ago I was to trade for a beautiful adult female Salmon Boa. The shipper used the USPS (he never told me who he was using) and when they told him it might be two days he shipped anyway! A $900 seven foot beutiful Salmon with two whimpy 12 hour heat packs with the potential for a two day trip to New Hampshire? Needless to say it was a DOA even though it was delivered by the next day. When I notified the seller he seemed like it was no big deal. I on the other hand was very shaken and upset by this. Every time an animal dies needlessly it's like losing family to me and I'm emotionally shaken. I guess you call it compassion which is something this fool you unfortunately dealt with has no concept of. I really hate to read about things like this. It's very upsetting and I'm sorry this happened to you. I hope you are at least somehow compensated financially for the loss but it doesn't look good in my opinion.
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02-23-2002, 09:18 AM
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Greg...You have GOT to tell us who the SCHMUCK was that would send an adult Salmon BOA ILLEGALLY via USPS with 12-hr heat packs to NEW HAMPSHIRE!! I've got to MAKE SURE I NEVER order ANYTHING from THAT company! I hope you got compensated??? ....Neil
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02-23-2002, 11:13 AM
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Neil,
I don't think this person was experienced shipping animals to cold climates. After I told him about what happened his response was that he suspected the animal died from something else and that I should immediately destroy the box and disinfect anything it came in contact with. I wonder if he suspected it could have had IBD? Did he obtain it from Bill Cagle or the likes? He said he only had it two weeks and kept it completely quarantined at his facility. Then I thought that's nice he wanted me to trade three animals for something he thinks may have been sick? Well I was ready to do the trade but obviously didn't because he shipped first and all I got was a DOA. I looked at how nice the animal was and how much I was looking forward to hooking her up with an adult male albino. As I looked at the poor animal all I could do was shake my head that something so beautiful that had taken years to grow to this point lost it's life due to negligence. I don't believe the animal was sick at all it simply froze. There were two partners involved with e-mail addresses of Chris@desertreptiles@cox.net and Richard at rdww@qwest.net. I believe they were out of Arizona with phone# 602-439-8362. I'm providing this information because that's the purpose of this board and you requested it but Richard was great to work with. When I notified him of the animals demise he didn't even ask for a pic although I sent several anyway to erase any doubt. He just doesn't know how to ship to cold climates that's all. Such a shame. And for the record the animal or box and contents never came near my collection.
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02-23-2002, 02:51 PM
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[b][u]IT IS NOW FRIDAY! VET APPOINTMENT WENT WELL...IF THIS IS CONSDIERED WELL!!![/i]
What the vet had to say...
the right eye is probably compeletly blind dude to a eye trauma, or a puncture to it. This goes along w/ the face, yet the face isnt anything to really worry about..
The left eye, has vision, to the extent of vision, he cannot tell, He said it wasnt infection and has enough vision to live in captivity. Meds were given for the eye.
He also said she has a respitory infection. He gave me medication for that.
She cant really move her arms and untill we do bloodwork we are lead to belive this was a muscle disorder she was born with, it doesnt seem to be imparing her ability to walk or climb so nothing to really worry about.
Good news is she is a normal weight for her length and she didnt act up at all on the vet table, athough when i put her on it she jumped from the cold...("thank goodness mommy brought a nice fleece blanket to put over that cold metal table"-holly the ig spam_)
The meds are as follows:
Atopine Opthalmic - to dilate and open the blind eye
1 drop, 2x a day; 7 days
Baytril- to heal respitory infection
0.05 ml; 1x a day
Tripil Antibiotic (perscribed from a vet)
as needed; 2x a day in eye and lip; 10 days spam_
this whole vet visit was around $85
I go back in 2 weeks for another checkup
Thanks for the support guys, uve been wonderful...right now Holly is basking and is nice and green
Lemme just add one thing....anyone have any tips, seems like Holly cant see my big female, Rexy, headbobbing...this is causing trouble cause holly got into rexy cage last nite and rexy TRIED TO spam_Take off Hllys tail when i tried to get Holly out.
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02-23-2002, 09:28 PM
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I looked up his spam_AOL profile & spam_he has a aol homepage on it spam_ http://hometown.aol.com/jas1234321/ or in case it's gone after he reads this I cut & pasted it for you.
REPTILES FOR SALE
MONITORS,BOAS,PYTHONS,GECKOS,
AND MUCH MORE.....
spam_
J&J REPTILES
IF YOU ARE INTERESTEAD IN BUYING REPTILES
E-MAIL ME OR IM ME AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND IL GIVE YOU A QUOTE AS FAR AS AVAILABILITY.
spam_
E-MAIL OR IM ME AT..
JAS1234321@AOL.COM
OR CALL ME AT
(305) 248-9008
THANK YOU
*JASON
maybe this will help to find if he screwed anyone else over.
Melissa, good luck with the Iggy & I hope you get it back to health & maybe even your money back.
Chris Pearson
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02-24-2002, 12:35 PM
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WANNA HEAR SOMETHING MESSED UP!!!?!?!?!?
The iggy on the web page is the iggy he sent!!!!!! but shes so MESSSED up!!!
I know its her, same tail markings and whatnot...unless he pulled a Ben Stiller in "meet the parents" and spray painted its tail...lol okay not a laughin matter really..
Update on Holly---- she slept w/ me last nite to keep toasty <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=' '> she very sight impared and its very scary for her....
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