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Old 02-20-2002, 10:50 PM   #41
Ghi Reptiles
My dealings with Polanco are as follows:

1. I sold him 4 Guyana emeralds that were perfect for $800.00 for the four of them. Three months later when he was mad he said two of them died and I owed him $400.00. They were perfect up until that day. He freezes all of his animals so I asked for the bodies. When I told him I had pics of them he said he threw them out. He simply lied to me. He said if I didn't pay him he would let everyone know I sold him bad animals. He is now selling one of the remaining poor souls as a potential 'Black' emerald. This possible one of three in the US will only cost $750.00. If I really thought it would be 1 of 3 it would be $7,500.00. Possible inflated price for a normal emerald? By the way, I have an emerald that is a possible Het for invisiblism. $1,000.00
2. I bought a 'Basin" from him for $1,000.00. Her name is Tina. She was supposed to be problem free. She couldn't go to the bathroom properly. She also puked after 7 days. He refunded my money when I called him on the bad deal.
3. I was going to trade a 'Basin' to Polanco for 4 babies. When he said they were ugly I said no deal and he said o.k.. Later he said Buddy Goetzger wanted to trade. To make a long story short, Buddy was giving me a couple of his babies and Joe was throwing in two ugly ones. I was to ship the 'Basin' to Buddy and he was to ship her to Polanco. Buddy was very honest about it after I e-mailed him one day when I heard of the scam by Joe. Joe got mad at me for catching him and called me every name in the book for 20 minutes. Buddy and I became good friends! Buddy and Joe are no longer friends.
4. I had a 'Basin' for sale. Polanco e-mailed me and said, Buddy was offered that snake for $1,500.00 and he turned it down so how much do you want. I told Polanco he was wrong on the figure. He called Buddy and asked him to lie to me and say that was the figure. Buddy told him to go fly a kite.
5. Polanco publically said as with him, many of my customers have had bad deals with me. And that I also don't take care of my customers and sell bad animals. Not True in either case.
6. Polanco has threatened to kick my butt at this years expo. "When we meet face to face you are going to need to be as big as your mouth."
7. My posts continuously get bashed and berated on his forum by him and if I reply, it gets deleated.

I am a big boy but this guy needs to be exposed. Today he even turned on one of his friends when they questioned him about the abuse toward me. Any replys would be appreciated.

Matt Lerer
 
Old 02-20-2002, 11:14 PM   #42
HerpVenue
Matt.
All I can say is watch your back and be careful with him... Just avoid him.....But this is one of those do as I say and not as I do.... spam_Because if it was me...I would go up to him and say..."YO what's up...Let's see what you got now punk" spam_But that is me.....and I love confrontation. spam_But ONLY against "bad" guys. spam_I hate "bad" guys and all those who defend them. spam_Just like I hate osama....and all the Americans who say to take it easy on the guy.

Karen.. Yes, I said you defended your beloved Joe. spam_I am not going to hide that fact. spam_ That is what I perceived. spam_That is what I said. spam_NO that is not a lie. spam_That is my opinion. spam_Look I even got you to finally post on this site and post AGAINST me. spam_So I still perceive a defense for Joe.

Most normal persons would be quick to make preseumptions trust me.....Like I said. spam_If you were posting bad about someone.....and I told you to shut up and mind your own business.....What would you think? spam_Would you think I was on your side? spam_Or would you think I was defending the other person? spam_Quit dancing around and just answer it.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">normal persons wouldn't post extremely inflammatory questions just to stir up trouble and self-aggrandize themselves</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
So I guess it is okay for your beloved Joe to do it and not anyone else.

I guess it is okay for you to stick your nose where it "sopposedly" does not belong. spam_ But not okay for anyone else to do it.

What are your answers? spam_hypocrite

my point...don't tell us to mind our own business when you OBVIOUSLY can't mind yours.

p.s. spam_Karen.. the 33 percent is not an exact figure...I bet if I really count......It would be less than 10 percent. spam_But I am not going to call you a liar. spam_You are entitled to your own opinion about me posting on "nearly all" the topics...even though it is not true

p.s.s. &nbsp;Ken responds to less than 2% of the posts....But I am not going to call you a liar just because you OBVIOUSLY have problems counting
 
Old 02-20-2002, 11:30 PM   #43
HerpVenue
Karen,
I did a search JUST for you
Currently at this present time and date....there are 118 Topics on the Reptile and amphibian BOI

I did a search. &nbsp;My name and or responses appears on 4 of them. &nbsp;That is 3.38983 % &nbsp;

You are entitled to your opinion of 3.4 percent being "nearly all"
 
Old 02-20-2002, 11:31 PM   #44
Ken Harbart
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Ken, what I said above pretty much goes for you to, you are always putting in your opinion, even when you are not involved. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

That;s right Karen. I do post my opinion, and that is my prerogative. It's a great country that we live in- people are entitled to expressing their opinions. Just because they may differ from yours or mine means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. Also, the last time I checked, the rules of this board also allowed for the posting of opinions, so long as they were stated as such.

That being said, let me add my $0.02 to a few points that you made. Not worth two cents you say? Not a problem...today only, it's free (Just don't tell anyone about the great deal).Bear in mind that nothing in this reply is meant to flame you or offend you- just to shed some light on my POV and add some of my dry humor.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I asked you why you always felt it necessary to stick your nose into other people's business, especially when you were not involved in any business dealings with the concerned parties.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I can't speak for Ritchie. Speaking for myself though, I take some pride in the core value of integrity, and have zero tolerence for those who lack it. If I disagree with someone's words or actions, I call them out on it, plain & simple. That's my right, and is within the rules that Rich has set forth.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You had NO BUSINESS posting on the Boa Kingdom Tree Boa forum, you only posted there to make trouble and apparently so you could feel like "a big man."</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
From what I can gather, the post was meant to incite a reply from Mr. Polanco. I'm rather curious to see what may be said in reply to the allegations of threatened asskickings, etc. ####, I'd like to know if I'm on the to-be-kicked list so I can plan my Daytona trip accordingly.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What I did say about your commander is perhaps you should stop sticking your nose in other people's business before SOMEONE decided to call your commander again (get it, I didn't say I would). </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Between you and me, I can see where it would be VERY easy for someone to construe this as a veiled threat. I doubt that's how you intended it to come out, but that's the downside of the internet- some statements can be taken more than one way.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Perhaps everyone posting on this forum should stick with the concept of posting good guy/bad guy comments ONLY[b] if you have done business with the person(s) in question</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Where's the fun in that? spam_ <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

That being said, I think enough time and energy has been spent on this little tangent, wouldn't you agree?

Ritchie- I know who Karen is, and she has long since earned my respect from back in the "old days" in the kingsnake.com boa forum, as well as in the what seemed like nightly boa forum chat (correct me if I'm wrong about the chat, Karen), and I'll vouch for her character any day. So why don't all 3 of us who are the principles in this little fracas agree to just let it drop? None of us can possibly win this debate- no matter what, all 3 of us will just be frustrated if it proceeds.
 
Old 02-20-2002, 11:41 PM   #45
HerpVenue
Okay its done.

If you say she is a good person...then she is a good person.
I do not like arguements with good people.

But I do enjoy arguements with "bad" people.



so peace

I outa here................welp until Joe comes and explains his side.
 
Old 02-20-2002, 11:41 PM   #46
BenSiegelReptiles
<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> YEAH----JOE IS A PRETTY TOUGH GUY TO TAKE---my experience with him was i sold him a nice emerald at almost half price---3 months later he wanted a refund because it was puking(never did at my place--he must have something airborne)-regardless--he gave me a list of people to contact that would vouge for him and he said they would advise me to give him a refund because they would do the same for him----well i called his bluff--the one guy he had emphasized the most said 3 months???i would not give joe polanco a 3 hour guarantee---needless to say, being the big pushover that i am--i still offered joe half credit and he turned it down saying that he would send me half a snake for half credit--i said keep the snake and take half credit--still no good---he wanted full credit on an $800 emerald that i sold to him for $400 3 MONTHS LATER!!!---he is a joke and so is his dictatorship board---i think matt is correct when he says that he starts beleiving his own lies--because after he posted on his board about the incident, and every poster on the entire board came to my defense--MY(BEN SIEGEL) DEFENSE ON JOES BOARD-he still beleives he is in the right--he lives in a dream world---i just wish kingsnake would reopen the tree boa forum----and the whole post deltion thing is absolutely true to the note---i mean there were a few of us reading it right before it was being deleted--it was like he was sweating at home just pounding away at the delete button--too funny!any way--the name usually brings cringing facial expressions to whoever you mention it to and even after numerous civil e-mail attempts by me--he is still being a child. &nbsp;To each his own--some people thrive on anger---it keeps them going--they usually do not live to long.
 
Old 02-20-2002, 11:44 PM   #47
Danny Mendez
Richie, Keep up the good work. &nbsp;It's true you have no direct dealing with Joe Polanco but you never made such claims. &nbsp;I have seen how you've ousted liars in the past and have thoroughly enjoyed it.

Karen, I never made any claim as to whether or not you were the "Karen" that contacted Richie...but I can see how it can seem that way. &nbsp;My followup post simply served as a random warning inspired by Richie's comments. &nbsp;No harm meant, I know you are generally unbiased, especially with regards to this issue. &nbsp;

Matt,

1. Keep up the good work. &nbsp;I just received another glorious animal from you this evening (Just got back from the airport) and once again you have delivered a great animal, great service, and a great deal. &nbsp;All around a positive experience as it has always been. &nbsp;That's way more than Joe Polanco can ever claim to deliver, EVEN AFTER 30 YEARS OF IMPORTING &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

2. I've seen Joe in person, trust me, he's got nothing going for him. &nbsp;After fueding with him for several months he saw me at the Daytona expo and couldn't hide quick enough every time. &nbsp;And yes, he is bigger than me...but that's clearly not an issue. I will be at Daytona with bells on this year. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

Joe has blocked me from his email as well, I have contacted him with regards to defending himself but my mail came back undeliverable. &nbsp;So, don't lose sight of what this post is all about...it's simply to show the world that Joe Polanco is a coward who is also a pathological liar and everyone would do best to steer clear.

Danny Mendez
 
Old 02-21-2002, 12:20 AM   #48
BenSiegelReptiles
well one thing is a relief---at lease joe cannot delete all these posts!!!!---they are here for all to see---and he has never threatened to beat me up, however he is going to be a busy man at daytona with all the beatings he is saying hew is going to be handing out-HA!-
 
Old 02-21-2002, 12:34 AM   #49
Ghi Reptiles
Well, I offered Joe the opportunity to join this discussion and he declined. He will not answer to anyone if it is not under a controlled situation on his own turf. He was just nice enough to intentionally e-mail me a virus though. I was able to avoid it. Is this someone that any of you would want to deal with?
 
Old 02-21-2002, 12:42 AM   #50
Danny Mendez
His emails are like his animals, he intentionally sends out viruses with both.

Danny Mendez <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>
 

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