Bill Leverton SCAMMER beware

bill
dont say you are sorry for the way this looks, say you are sorry for stealing money and lying about getting no snake and keeping it a reselling it. Apologize for that. You say you would never take any money from anyone, but you will certainly crook some money from lee--

Jim and James, thanks for trying to explain this to me in a reasonable way, I just don't see it and don't know anything about snakes.

"Jim and James, thanks for trying to explain this to me in a reasonable way, I just don't see it and don't know anything about snakes."

You are quite welcome. I can understand where you are having trouble with this, and it is just one of things you have to have done (photo id the same snake in various positions).

I hate to speak for anyone (please forgive me Ben), but I don't think Ben meant any harm by raising his voice. He just knows what he knows, and it can be frusterating when people do not see what is obvious to them.

Wendy not taking a shot at ya here but you keep saying "I just don't see it and don't know anything about snakes." If you want to have a better idea on the arrow as some call it- draw the arrow shaped marking that your talking about on a sheet of paper and look at it from different angles then tape the sheet into a tube and look at it again fron different angles and maybe you'll see what they are talking about. Sort of like how the land masses look on a world map as compared to a globe the world and snakes are not flat.. Randy

did not mean to jump all over you--totally did not---just frustrated as i can relate to this problem directly and it just peeves me to see someone try to defend themselves like this. And to bill-i dont want you to admit you stole to shut everyone up and make this stop-it would be hard to make it genuine at all at this point-i am sure you have personal problems--not a good reason to steal and deny it--we all have our problems throughout life--got to make amends and move on. I am done here--hate to even get involved with these things, but this one struck a definate nerve with me being that i have had this happen and had no defense but to eat my costs even though i knew i was being scammed. I mean dude--you denied and denied and denied-changed you story--gave a sob story----it took someone to practically draw a complex map of this animal for you to even start changing your tune. My only question is this--DID YOU RECEIVE THAT SNAKE IN THE MAIL AND LIE ABOUT GETTING AN EMPTY BOX?

Looks like the same snake to me(but I do wear glasses). However, I see a way Bill could clear his name if he is willing to attempt it. Bill, you stated that the length of the snake that you have for sale is less than the length of the snake that Lee sold you almost 3 months ago, correct? If you could post a picture of the snake next to a ruler showing its size and Lee could varify the size of the snake that he sent, that would simply end this all together if the snake you have is smaller. We can argue different patterns, similar patterns, or same patterns for days, but size is one thing that can't be agrued. Snakes don't shrink

"If you could post a picture of the snake next to a ruler showing its size and Lee could varify the size of the snake that he sent, that would simply end this all together if the snake you have is smaller."

Daniel,

Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

Ok I was caught and I apologize for this I will take what is coming to me and all those people who put their faith in me. I am sorry and I hope in time I will regain your Trust Lee will get his money next week ..Let the beatings begin

I just put a lot of effort into proving saddle #6 was in fact the same in both pics by drawing a similair marking on one of my snakes. Wasted effort now.

Good for you admitting what you did. I can't begin to imagine why you did it~ but admitting the truth is a good first step.

"Ok I was caught and I apologize for this I will take what is coming to me and all those people who put their faith in me. I am sorry and I hope in time I will regain your Trust Lee will get his money next week"

A big step in the right direction.

"Let the beatings begin"

Is that what you think this is about? It may very well be for some. However, it really should not be about beating you down. It is not even about you. It is about Lee, and it is about getting to the bottom of this big mess. And now we are getting closer. I just have one question (for now). Why?