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06-21-2005, 03:03 PM
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Has anyone ever dealt with Mario Gotti from Florida?
Have your ever met him? Any deals with him at all? Any info greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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08-14-2005, 12:05 AM
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Same question
...anyone?
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08-14-2005, 01:30 AM
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Charles,
He offered me a female hetero for axanthic a while ago that apparently could be verified with Alan Bosch. Never did though, but you can start there. No-one has ever heard from him in Florida and he is now offering ball python morphs left and right ( including some highly sought-after heteros and for best offers). Furthermore two people e-mailed me privately telling me that's not his real name but regrettably I lost that info. So if Mr. "D" or "A" can re-send it to me I have no problem in posting his true identity. Just for the record, he claims to be nephew of John Gotti.
Regards.
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08-14-2005, 01:32 AM
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What he is selling is very odd!
I dont know why anyone in thier right mind would be selling adult high het females with breeding season right around the corner. He never has any pictures in his ads. If he has adult het female stripes for sale he must be known by someone. Considering he would have had to buy a genetic stripe male five years ago. It seems really fishy. I defiantly would have to think long and hard and sill wouldnt make the purcahse. He seems to have adult het females that would fit everyones needs. That is also a sign of Scam. I could be wrong but I dont think so.
Mike Tucker
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08-14-2005, 01:45 AM
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I think I should retract my words now!
I dont want the gotti boys showing up at my house. LOL
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08-14-2005, 01:47 AM
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Mike,
His most recent ads:
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adult breeder females for sale
Florida
Posted by Mario Gotti (Contact Me!) on August 13, 2005 at 17:44:20
Registered PetHobbyist User since 2005-05-21
View Ads (3) | This Category Only (3)
Send this ad to a friend! Click Here!
100% het for albino females 900-2000 grams $1000 and up
100% het for pied females 1200-2200 grams $2000 and up
100% het for gentic stripe 800-1400 grams $8000 and up
100% for lavnder albino 750-1800 grams $8000 and up
email for pics and best cash offers
open to ball trades
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Quote:
ball morphs for sale
Florida
Posted by Mario Gotti (Contact Me!) on August 13, 2005 at 15:20:10
Registered PetHobbyist User since 2005-05-21
View Ads (2) | This Category Only (2)
Send this ad to a friend! Click Here!
albino $2,000 each
female albino $2,100 each
100% het albino females $650 each
100% het albino pairs $750
pied male $5000 each
pied female $4500 each
100% het pied female $1700 each
genetic stripe male $15,000 each
genetic stripe female $18,000 each
100% het genetic stripe male $4000
100% het genetic stripe female $7000
100% het genetic stripe pair $9500
100% het for lavender albino male $4000
100% het for lavender albino female $7000
100% het for lavender albino pair $9500
double het for albino pied
double het for albino gentic stripe
double het for albino clown
open to ball trades
email for pics
The following was added on 08/13/05
make offer on all double hets
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Anyone in the “Sunshine” state ever heard from him? I'm with Mike, someone that has such a variety of high end animals to offer has to be known.
Regards.
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08-14-2005, 01:50 AM
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Ive never heard of him
I am in Florida bit then again Im a nobody. I just have a few high end animals and know there isnt a reason to sell high end het females , ADULTS at that!
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08-14-2005, 11:16 AM
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Here is my first interaction with Mario Gotti:
His first message in reply to a wanted ad I posted in June:
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----- Original Message -----
From: <gottisnakes@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: Message about: Looking for 100% hetero SK axanthic female 04 or older.
>i have a 100% het for sk line from alan bosh with his papers that i am looking to sell...let me know if you are still looking
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My reply:
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To: <gottisnakes@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: Looking for 100% hetero SK axanthic female 04 or older.
> What's your name and where are you at? Can the animal's genetics be verified
> by Alan Bosch (picture ID)? Tell me a little bit more about her
> (weight/size/feeding habits). Do you have any current pictures of her? How
> much are you asking?
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> Thanks,
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> Dan
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At that point no red flags yet
His second reply:
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From: Gottisnakes@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: Looking for 100% hetero SK axanthic female 04 or older.
if you give me your number i can call you and we can talk about the snake
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So nothing in writing? Hmmmm?
My reply:
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To: Gottisnakes@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: Looking for 100% hetero SK axanthic female 04 or older.
Can you at least answer my previous questions before we engage on a formal telephone conversation? I don't want to loose your or my time.
What's your name and where are you at? Can the animal's genetics be verified by Alan Bosch (picture ID)? Tell me a little bit more about her
(weight/size/feeding habits). Do you have any current pictures of her? How much are you asking?
Thanks,
Dan
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His reply:
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From: Gottisnakes@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: Looking for 100% hetero SK axanthic female 04 or older.
my name is mario gotti yes she can be verifed by alan bosh pics....she is about 500 grams eating 2 small rats a week i dont have any pics of my own of her but i can take some.....i am in florida
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The animal can be verified by Alan Bosch’s pictures but he doesn’t have picture of his own, although he can take some…
Yesterday I sent this message inquiring about his 100% heteros:
Quote:
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 12:51 AM
Subject: Message about: adult breeder females for sale
Below is a copy of the mesage you sent to Mario Gotti
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> Mario,
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> Could you send me your complete info (address and telephone number). What forms of payment do you accept and where are they supposed to be sent to. I would like to know more about those females.
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> Thanks,
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> Dan
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And again here is his reply:
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From: Gottisnakes@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: adult breeder females for sale
if you can please send me your phone number so i can call you and we can work something out
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Every time I have asked for a verifiable telephone number and address he has asked for my telephone number instead.
My reply to his e-mail:
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To: Gottisnakes@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: adult breeder females for sale
Mario,
If you don't mind I'd rather call you. When buying on line I feel more comfortable having a verifiable name, address, and phone number. Nothing personal, but you probably know there are a lot of unscrupulous individuals selling snakes around these days.
Thanks for your time.
Dan
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In this date and age if the seller wants to do business he has to provide with his complete info to the buyer. I’m still waiting for his answer.
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08-14-2005, 11:25 AM
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Headline news.
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To: Gottisnakes@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: adult breeder females for sale
Mario,
Nothing personal but this is a lot of money. I'm not going to call to your house number unless something goes wrong. You did not give me a zc for your place either. Is that Plantation, FL where you are living? I still need to match your phone number with you address and name. Complete name, address and verifiable phone number (no cells) are a must for any transaction of this amount via internet.
Thanks,
Dan
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Quote:
----- Original Message -----
From: Gottisnakes@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Message about: adult breeder females for sale
yes payment goes to that adress i gave my cell number cuz it would cost money to call on my house my cell does not cost any money i can give you my house number but i would like you to call the cell
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As I said before, it's nothing personal, and maybe I'm wrong, but non-verifiable phone number with an address...no money is going to be sent.
Regards.
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08-14-2005, 12:22 PM
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I just copy and pasted the text from my response to him below.
...he never answered me.
Did you produce her?
Can you send me some pics of either your homogenous parent or of some
paperwork on her (if you purchased her elsewhere that is).
..and her pic too.
Thank you
Charles Glaspie
----- Original Message -----
From: <gottisnakes@aol.com>
To: <cglaspie@triad.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:27 PM
Subject: Message about: Female ball pythons for.
>i would trade a 05 female het albino for the 3 of them
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