Notices |
Hello!
Either you have not registered on this site yet, or you are registered but have not logged in. In either case, you will not be able to use the full functionality of this site until you have registered, and then logged in after your registration has been approved.
Registration is FREE, so please register so you can participate instead of remaining a lurker....
Please note that the information requested during registration will be used to determine your legitimacy as a participant of this site. As such, any information you provide that is determined to be false, inaccurate, misleading, or highly suspicious will result in your registration being rejected. This is designed to try to discourage as much as possible those spammers and scammers that tend to plague sites of this nature, to the detriment of all the legitimate members trying to enjoy the features this site provides for them.
Of particular importance is the REQUIREMENT that you provide your REAL full name upon registering. Sorry, but this is not like other sites where anonymity is more the rule.
Also your TRUE location is important. If the location you enter in your profile field does not match the location of your registration IP address, then your registration will be rejected. As such, I strongly urge registrants to avoid using a VPN service to register, as they are often used by spammers and scammers, and as such will be blocked when discovered when auditing new registrations.
Sorry about all these hoops to jump through, but I am quite serious about blocking spammers and scammers at the gate on this site and am doing the very best that I can to that effect. Trust me, I would rather be doing more interesting things with my time, and wouldn't be making this effort if I didn't think it was worthwhile.
|
General Discussions This is a general purpose forum open to all topics related to Insects and Arachnids. |
11-15-2015, 10:25 AM
|
#1
|
|
Exotic Phasmids illegal in USA? USDA/Aphis documentation???
Does anyone know where to find the documentation from usda or aphis stating that ALL exotic stick insects or phasmids are illegal to own in the US?
I keep reading comments on forums about them being illegal to keep as pets but when I've tried to look up where the legal wording coming from usda or aphis I cannot find anything. Also I looked at Minnesota and didn't find anything restricting then as pets.
I can understand in the southern states having restrictions but nothing tropical could withstand a winter here in the North.
Any help would be appreciated.
|
|
|
12-28-2015, 04:18 PM
|
#2
|
|
I've heard this same story when I used to be on Arachnoboards but I've researched it and have never found any documentation. I will say that the eggs of various phasmid species have been sold, inexpensively, on the U.S. based eBay site for years without issue. I know from personal experience that eBay is very diligent in ensuring that nothing is sold on their site which violates federal rules and regulations.
|
|
|
02-25-2016, 06:10 PM
|
#3
|
|
[size="3"]I checked to see if the information I wrote about phasmids being available on eBay was still accurate - and it is. If you enter the words "stick insect" as a search query, the listings come up. Additionally, they have listings for live ants, moths, butterflies, mantids, every feeder insect, and tropical fish./SIZE]
|
|
|
02-26-2016, 01:28 AM
|
#4
|
|
Correction
CORRECTION: Enter the words "stick" "insect" and "eggs" in the search query on eBay and the listings will come up. Good luck.
|
|
|
10-05-2017, 10:46 AM
|
#5
|
|
I’ve noticed that Underground Reptiles is selling nymphs of the Phasmid species, Extasoma tiaratum for $20/each. The Phasmid hobby has come a long way just since the creation of this thread.
|
|
|
10-05-2017, 07:34 PM
|
#6
|
|
When I worked at a museum, I remember that we were required to have a permit for some but I believe not all of our phasmid collection. I think the Australian species did not require a permit, but I could be wrong. This was back in 2005 though.
|
|
|
11-01-2017, 02:11 PM
|
#7
|
|
|
|
|
11-01-2017, 07:50 PM
|
#8
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjwhiteley
|
Firstly, nowhere in the regulations you appended does it specifically say a word about Phasmids, stick insects, leaf insects or their larvae or eggs. Second, the regulations only reference "importation" of insects that feed on plant matter. In other words, bringing live animals into the USA from a foreign country. Most phasmid species are now being bred in the US and sold as "captive born" so the regulation (even if applicable to Phasmids, which there is no proof of) is inapplicable to animals that are captive born and sold within the US.
|
|
|
11-02-2017, 10:21 AM
|
#9
|
|
John, I'm not sure why you are arguing with me. I agree the regulation is vague, but that just leaves the interpretation up to federal agents. It requires a permit for interstate movement, that is pretty specific. Then it also requires the permit for all exotic insects in public displays, zoos and museums. The intent is clearly to preclude private ownership.
|
|
|
Join
now to reply to this thread or open new ones
for your questions & comments! FaunaClassifieds.com
is the largest online community about Reptile
& Amphibians, Snakes, Lizards and number one
classifieds service with thousands of ads to look
for. Registration is open to everyone and FREE.
Click Here to Register!
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:47 AM.
|
|