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Old 11-19-2020, 12:13 PM   #1
Marc Caruhel
wanted : het scaleless corns for Park Program

Hello My name is Marc Caruhel and I'm the Animal Care Specialist at Hugh Taylor Birch State Park here in Fort Lauderdale Florida. The Park has ( and has had for well over a decade now) a Live Animal Educational/Environmental Program which we use to inform and educate about our native species and their surrounding environments.
We are nothing if not 100% humane and ethical when it comes to our beloved "Kids/Family Members" as we like to and have also come to refer to our program animals. We only use South Florida ( Florida in general at the utmost least) species - versus non- native/invasive species which we have an excessive abundance of throughout Florida but especially here in South Florida) as well as only bred individuals - versus wild caught individuals.

What's really high on the park's wish list and we've been trying to get a hold of the most recently are some het scaleless corn snakes. We would love(and are trying) to work with the scaleless traits/genes but also want to visually represent - as already mentioned- what one should naturally be able to come across here in the Florida wilderness. Our solution there is het scaleless individuals. What we're really looking for ( ideally and eventually) are young adult anery het scaleless( 1.3) and young adult classic/standards het scaleless( 1.1).

Please do either shoot me a PM here or ( best, fastest, and easiest ) email me at nancycaruhel@bellsouth.net if you think you just might be able to help us out here at all in any way, shape, or form. Regardless of the outcome of this posting I'd ;like to thank everyone and anyone whom responds and thinks they can help out - It's TRULY AND GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!!!

Very Best Regards
Marc Caruhel

In addition to the het scaleless corns we're also looking for some female young adult het scaleless everglades rat snakes - ideally hypo het scaleless, but that's not a deal breaker or anything.

Thank you all ever so very much for all and any whom respond - it's GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-20-2020, 01:47 PM   #2
Terri Bienkowski
Are you aware that the scaleless corn snake is a cross between Pantherophis guttatus and Elaphe emoryi? That cross would not be found naturally in FL and was purposefully done in captivity in order to introduce the scaleless gene into the corn snake hobby population. Therefore it is not an example of a native Florida species.
I wouldn't want to misinform anyone seeking to understand the issues of non-native vs indigenous species by using a Scaleless Corn Snake as an example. In light of this information, you might want to rethink that particular project.
 
Old 11-22-2020, 10:02 AM   #3
Socratic Monologue
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They said non-native vs. native, so apparently they want to show what man can do with genetics vs..what nature does, so scaless compared to a non-scaless.
I took Terri's point to be (and I agree) that a het scaleless corn isn't a native species, since it is an intergeneric hybrid. I'd go farther, even, and point out that only a F1 or maybe F2 locality animal could represent the wild-type given that selective breeding is at play, usually.
 

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