Ty park/ ty lizards FL

Originally Posted by Donald C

False, one screwup can break a reputation. Most especially when handled as badly as Ty has handled this one.

Then again, this isn't Ty's first screwup. Lynn mentioned how Ty did him dirty long before this case. If I was a betting man, I would be more than willing to bet that Lynn wasn't Ty's first.

You heard one side of the Lynn and Ty transaction. We may never hear Ty's side of that transaction. Shouldn't you get both sides of the story before making judgement?

Earlier in the thread, it was suggested that this was about gender - that Ty wouldn't have treated Michelle this way if she wasn't female.

Now you say Fauna wouldn't treat Ty this way if he wasn't Asian.

Let me just enlighten you otherwise.

Jeff and Christina Wise aren't Asian

Nor is Garrett Smith

Or Mel Kruger

Or Mike Matson

These are some of Fauna's longest and most active BOI 'bad guy' threads. Not a one of them are of Asian descent. I do think the 'King Cong' comment was uncalled for, but at the end of the day, making fun of someone's name doesn't inherently make that individual a racist - and trust me, I've seen way worse from Kennard to people who are white as snow. My impression is he doesn't suffer fools well.

Your implication that because my ethnicity means I'm unqualified to judge discrimination is, in itself, discriminatory and also very presumptuous. The only person behaving with prejudice is you. At the end of the day, most of the people replying here have a consistent track record of calling a Spade a Spade, regardless of who it is - and you can look at the other thread links and who the posters are in them to see for yourself.

Originally Posted by caffeinecynic

Arguments like this, pulling race into things where it doesn't come up, are counter-productive.

At this point, even addressing such arguments basically amounts to feeding the proverbial troll. Considering how he's vacillated throughout this thread, I think we're kinda just giving an attention whore his fix. As much as I generally hate to let idiocy go unchallenged, I seriously doubt that anyone will come across this thread and decide that racism played any part in it - at least, no one who doesn't need to grasp at the flimsiest, most non-existent straws to try to defend Ty Park. I think this may be a situation where the accusations of racism can be simplified to a "he who smelt it dealt it" kind of scenario - it may be a glimpse into their own natural tendencies.

Originally Posted by Fangthane

At this point, even addressing such arguments basically amounts to feeding the proverbial troll. Considering how he's vacillated throughout this thread, I think we're kinda just giving an attention redacted his fix. As much as I generally hate to let idiocy go unchallenged, I seriously doubt that anyone will come across this thread and decide that racism played any part in it - at least, no one who doesn't need to grasp at the flimsiest, most non-existent straws to try to defend Ty Park. I think this may be a situation where the accusations of racism can be simplified to a "he who smelt it dealt it" kind of scenario - it may be a glimpse into their own natural tendencies.

You are likely correct.

Originally Posted by caffeinecynic

Earlier in the thread, it was suggested that this was about gender - that Ty wouldn't have treated Michelle this way if she wasn't female.

Now you say Fauna wouldn't treat Ty this way if he wasn't Asian.

Let me just enlighten you otherwise.

Jeff and Christina Wise aren't Asian

Nor is Garrett Smith

Or Mel Kruger

Or Mike Matson

These are some of Fauna's longest and most active BOI 'bad guy' threads. Not a one of them are of Asian descent. I do think the 'King Cong' comment was uncalled for, but at the end of the day, making fun of someone's name doesn't inherently make that individual a racist - and trust me, I've seen way worse from Kennard to people who are white as snow. My impression is he doesn't suffer fools well.

Your implication that because my ethnicity means I'm unqualified to judge discrimination is, in itself, discriminatory and also very presumptuous. The only person behaving with prejudice is you. At the end of the day, most of the people replying here have a consistent track record of calling a Spade a Spade, regardless of who it is - and you can look at the other thread links and who the posters are in them to see for yourself.

Three of those four are actually real crooks. I am on the fence on Mike Matson. If you want to talk about spades, 3 of the 4 are real spades. If spades are crooks.

You are qualified to judge discrimination on gender and sexual orientation. I stand behind my statement that I don't feel you are qualified to judge discrimination based on skin color.

Originally Posted by FresnoTortoise

The transaction itself has nothing to do with discrimination in race or gender, now the other 138 pages of comments and other hate has to do with discrimination based on race. I am guessing you are a white person? I am not so sure a white person should be telling a minority, "hey this is not discrimination." I wonder if fauna has data on race of their members, I'm guessing 75 to 85 percent white?

No, this site doesn't ask for any data about any member concerning race, national origin, or sexual orientation. Because in my opinion it is immaterial and irrelevant to the focus of the discussions that take place.

BTW, look at the name of the person in the topic line of this thread. FYI, it is "Ty Park". There is nothing in that name that indicates any sort of race or national origin at all. And my guess is that nearly everyone who doesn't know, or know of, Ty Park would not have a clue that he is of Korean ancestry. Much less care either way, in my opinion, concerning the focus of this discussion.

Rich,

In the title, sure it is pretty race neutral. But then it changes, on first post full name "taesoon park" first name, with in a couple of pages he avatar picture from screen shots are posted.

Originally Posted by FresnoTortoise

Rich,

In the title, sure it is pretty race neutral. But then it changes, on first post full name "taesoon park" first name, with in a couple of pages he avatar picture from screen shots are posted.

In my opinion your claims are frivolous and without any merit whatsoever. Seriously, how many people would be able to determine national origin from a name like "Taesoon Park"? How many would really care to even look it up to try to make such a determination? And why would any person named as such be subject to any sort of national ancestry discrimination moreso that someone with a last name of, say, oh I don't know, how about "Zuchowski"? I'll bet there are a LOT more Polish jokes than there are Korean jokes.

Seriously, knock it off with the off topic chatter in this thread. If you want to talk about your own personal issues about discrimination, please go somewhere else to do so. I suggest FaceBook. Seems like an excellent place for you to discuss such matters to wanting eyes and ears.

Originally Posted by WebSlave

In my opinion your claims are frivolous and without any merit whatsoever. Seriously, how many people would be able to determine national origin from a name like "Taesoon Park"? How many would really care to even look it up to try to make such a determination? And why would any person named as such be subject to any sort of national ancestry discrimination moreso that someone with a last name of, say, oh I don't know, how about "Zuchowski"? I'll bet there are a LOT more Polish jokes than there are Korean jokes.

Seriously, knock it off with the off topic chatter in this thread. If you want to talk about your own personal issues about discrimination, please go somewhere else to do so. I suggest FaceBook. Seems like an excellent place for you to discuss such matters to wanting eyes and ears.

Ok, then what about the picture of Ty that were posted? Are you going to make the same claim?

Originally Posted by WebSlave

In my opinion your claims are frivolous and without any merit whatsoever. Seriously, how many people would be able to determine national origin from a name like "Taesoon Park"? How many would really care to even look it up to try to make such a determination? And why would any person named as such be subject to any sort of national ancestry discrimination moreso that someone with a last name of, say, oh I don't know, how about "Zuchowski"? I'll bet there are a LOT more Polish jokes than there are Korean jokes.

Seriously, knock it off with the off topic chatter in this thread. If you want to talk about your own personal issues about discrimination, please go somewhere else to do so. I suggest FaceBook. Seems like an excellent place for you to discuss such matters to wanting eyes and ears.

From one Polish person to another: so do I.